Solved Restore old animation of moving tabs (tab sliding)

raull127

@dude99 said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

@raull127 Is this a feature request or a grumbling RANT? LOL

Jokes aside, I think what you hate is the poor presentation & bugs that come with the new changes. I heard the changes made are suppose to solve some laggy problem introduced by the new 2 level tab stacking. But then they end up introduced even more problems at the end, so that's definitely not cool.

You should file a bug report on the wrong placement of d&d tab at top/bottom of the tabbar. That's definitely a bug. Sometimes it might even get deleted (closed) & then I have to restore it via the trashcan...

Same with the incognito mode, file a bug report so that the dev know about it. They won't fix bugs that they don't know exist, so only you can help 'em with that.

Its both.
I simply cannot understand why you would replace a system that worked (and it works great, because 99% of browsers are like that, it's the standard for a reason), with another one that not only feels worse but is full of bugs. I just don't get it.
Some people may have gotten used to it. But I refuse to get used to something badly designed, just because. And I hope that's not the official answer, because otherwise goodbye Vivaldi. It was nice while it lasted.
I know that changing a product used by a large number of users takes time, and we are here waiting. But patience is running out.

Stardust

Upvoted!
BTW there is a big discussion in this thread: Restore old animation of moving tabs

Stardust

@raull127 said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

I simply cannot understand why you would replace a system that worked (and it works great, because 99% of browsers are like that, it's the standard for a reason), with another one that not only feels worse but is full of bugs. I just don't get it.

The first time it appeared in the snapshot I thought it was a bug...

Pesala

@raull127 said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

I know that changing a product used by a large number of users takes time, and we are here waiting. But patience is running out.

A month is a very short time in the development process. The new code was introduced to deal with two level tab-stacking. The bugs will be fixed, and the animation will be improved. Vivaldi 3.8 Stable should be released very soon, probably this week. Next week we might see the first 3.9 Snapshot where some fixes can be tested. Hopefully, they will be mostly fixed by the release of 3.9 stable in another two months or so.

From the latest Minor Update :

@ruarí said:

@rseiler: No because we cannot go back to the old code since changes were needed to make two line drag and drop work correctly. We will keep moving forward and try and address issues with the new code so that those who are still unhappy with it, will be in the future but the changes would be too big and risky to introduce in a minor update.

Nekomajin

Feature request: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/60170/bring-back-the-tab-sliding-implementation

Please upvote!

tszt2021

+1 vote for restoring old animation of moving tabs!!! The new one is not working smoothly and its slow.

lajron

I was waiting for the "bug" to be resolved with a major Vivaldi update but it turns out the new tab movement isn't actually a bug as I decided to visit the forums and see what's going on.
Please give us an option if we're using Compact tab stacking to switch to a slide movement for rearranging tabs like before.

samuely

The Vivaldi browser itself was already cutting off margins of websites (always have to zoom out to get views that chrome fully displays by default). Now the 2nd row of tabs is cutting off even more.

Nekomajin

@samuely
You don't have to use the second row. It can be turned off in the Settings.

If you have the sidebar and the status bar turned on, the viewport is small, yes. But those are optional too.

Anyway, this thread is not about the second tab bar.

tjukken

Just found this thread. Thought maybe it was just me that wanted the old sliding tabs back. In my case it's actually a physical problem, because my hand-eye coordination isn't great. So tabs often get stacked when I don't want them to, or don't when I do. And now I drag the tabs outside the current window pretty regularly.

samuely

@Nekomajin thanks. But if I turn it off, I can't hover around open tabs.

downtowndb7

I like the new way much much better. I know exactly where I am putting it now. I used to have to hope it went where I wanted it and i often ended up with a stack when I didnt want one. I have a LOT of tabs open, its gets squishy, this helps a ton.

Pesala

I made a short video to show how to move, stack, unstack, and detach tabs in Vivaldi 3.8.

tjukken

@pesala said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

I made a short video to show how to move, stack, unstack, and detach tabs in Vivaldi 3.8.

Thanks, but we know how it looks and works. We just don't like how it looks and works.

abolog

@pesala @Gwen-Dragon

Except that, if you have tabs that update their title. It all crumbles to pieces and goes chaotic.

https://streamable.com/9whe2s

It flashes + the tab gets thrown at the end of the line.

Please. This is not the way to do tab management. Something must be done.

Maybe the stacking feature is with right click or cltr+move or something. And leave the tabs sliding.

This is an ugly bug.

linguaoccultus

At least the new way of moving tabs should be much smoother and more responsive. When moving a tab currently in the latest 3.8 stable build, the other tabs are reacting so late you have the feeling it is more reacting to the mouse cursor instead. The new way could be okay, when at least it way reacting as quick as in the prior form.

YamashitaRen

@abolog Yup. Can confirm. Exact same usecase. I had a guess it was related to permanent price updates.

Currently is is completely unusuable.
I don't mind theses new tabs but please fix this.

enc0re

I didn't saw mention about how is movement activated compared to Edge for example.
In Edge doesn't matter where you drag tab, if on left or right part of tab, you need to move tab always the same distance, and, you don't need to move cursor over 70% of the width of existing tab, to me it looks like only 50%.

Vivaldi with this new, not good system, you need to pass like 75% of tab width, to actually activate a new position. And if you start dragging tab from right part of tab, you need to move cursor even longer distance.

In Edge doesn't matter if I drag tab from left part of tab or from right part of tab. The new tab position is taken from bounds of dragged tab, not from position of cursor and that's a big benefit of Edge's and other browsers drag system.

indigos024

Pleass at least give us an On/Off option to this!
1.5 half months or how much is it already since this, and I still can't get used to this....

Nekomajin

@indigos024
This is Video pop-out #2. They made a very bad implementation, and I am sure they are working on something behind the scenes, but they don't communicate with the users. This is unacceptable.