Solved Restore old animation of moving tabs (tab sliding)

Nekomajin

@samuely
You don't have to use the second row. It can be turned off in the Settings.

If you have the sidebar and the status bar turned on, the viewport is small, yes. But those are optional too.

Anyway, this thread is not about the second tab bar.

tjukken

Just found this thread. Thought maybe it was just me that wanted the old sliding tabs back. In my case it's actually a physical problem, because my hand-eye coordination isn't great. So tabs often get stacked when I don't want them to, or don't when I do. And now I drag the tabs outside the current window pretty regularly.

samuely

@Nekomajin thanks. But if I turn it off, I can't hover around open tabs.

downtowndb7

I like the new way much much better. I know exactly where I am putting it now. I used to have to hope it went where I wanted it and i often ended up with a stack when I didnt want one. I have a LOT of tabs open, its gets squishy, this helps a ton.

Pesala

I made a short video to show how to move, stack, unstack, and detach tabs in Vivaldi 3.8.

tjukken

@pesala said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

I made a short video to show how to move, stack, unstack, and detach tabs in Vivaldi 3.8.

Thanks, but we know how it looks and works. We just don't like how it looks and works.

abolog

@pesala @Gwen-Dragon

Except that, if you have tabs that update their title. It all crumbles to pieces and goes chaotic.

https://streamable.com/9whe2s

It flashes + the tab gets thrown at the end of the line.

Please. This is not the way to do tab management. Something must be done.

Maybe the stacking feature is with right click or cltr+move or something. And leave the tabs sliding.

This is an ugly bug.

linguaoccultus

At least the new way of moving tabs should be much smoother and more responsive. When moving a tab currently in the latest 3.8 stable build, the other tabs are reacting so late you have the feeling it is more reacting to the mouse cursor instead. The new way could be okay, when at least it way reacting as quick as in the prior form.

YamashitaRen

@abolog Yup. Can confirm. Exact same usecase. I had a guess it was related to permanent price updates.

Currently is is completely unusuable.
I don't mind theses new tabs but please fix this.

enc0re

I didn't saw mention about how is movement activated compared to Edge for example.
In Edge doesn't matter where you drag tab, if on left or right part of tab, you need to move tab always the same distance, and, you don't need to move cursor over 70% of the width of existing tab, to me it looks like only 50%.

Vivaldi with this new, not good system, you need to pass like 75% of tab width, to actually activate a new position. And if you start dragging tab from right part of tab, you need to move cursor even longer distance.

In Edge doesn't matter if I drag tab from left part of tab or from right part of tab. The new tab position is taken from bounds of dragged tab, not from position of cursor and that's a big benefit of Edge's and other browsers drag system.

indigos024

Pleass at least give us an On/Off option to this!
1.5 half months or how much is it already since this, and I still can't get used to this....

Nekomajin

@indigos024
This is Video pop-out #2. They made a very bad implementation, and I am sure they are working on something behind the scenes, but they don't communicate with the users. This is unacceptable.

indigos024

@nekomajin They said there is no going back from this tab dragging, but I at least hope for an option to turn it off and on

Pesala

@nekomajin said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

I am sure they are working on something behind the scenes, but they don't communicate with the users. This is unacceptable.

I wish you would stop making false claims like this. The developers do communicate with users, but you do not pay attention, or perhaps you just don't read the accouncement threads.

@ruarí said in Minor update for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 3.7:

@rseiler: No because we cannot go back to the old code since changes were needed to make two line drag and drop work correctly. We will keep moving forward and try and address issues with the new code so that those who are still unhappy with it, will be in the future but the changes would be too big and risky to introduce in a minor update.

raoulg

@abolog Exactly the same behavior for me. Still don't understand how that is not considered a fairly important issue for an otherwise pretty great browser...

Nekomajin

@indigos024
Where did they say it?

Nekomajin

This is ridiculous. I grab the tab to move it to the right, but it jumps a position to the left.

Who thought this implemetation would be a good idea?!

YamashitaRen

@abolog said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

@pesala @Gwen-Dragon

Except that, if you have tabs that update their title. It all crumbles to pieces and goes chaotic.

https://streamable.com/9whe2s

It flashes + the tab gets thrown at the end of the line.

Please. This is not the way to do tab management. Something must be done.

Maybe the stacking feature is with right click or cltr+move or something. And leave the tabs sliding.

This is an ugly bug.

Is a fix planned ?
Or are you trying to alienate your users Mozilla style ?

@raoulg said in Restore old animation of moving tabs:

@abolog Exactly the same behavior for me. Still don't understand how that is not considered a fairly important issue for an otherwise pretty great browser...

^this

Pesala

@ruarí said in Minor update for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 3.7:

@rseiler: No because we cannot go back to the old code since changes were needed to make two line drag and drop work correctly. We will keep moving forward and try and address issues with the new code so that those who are still unhappy with it, will be in the future but the changes would be too big and risky to introduce in a minor update.

rafiki

@pesala said in Bring back the tab sliding implementation:

@ruarí said in Minor update for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 3.7:

@rseiler: No because we cannot go back to the old code since changes were needed to make two line drag and drop work correctly.

For me two-line drag and drop was too high a price to pay for the loss of basic functionality.