Downloads Button Popup
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As a suggestion: may it is possible just to "move" sidebar buttons panel to "extensions button area". All or just some buttons?
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Like the idea of having an indicator for downloads with a button for a popup if you have more than one download going. My suggestion is to have them in the status bar.
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This is like a floating web panel that can be attached either to the panel toolbar or any other toolbars. A web panel which is dropped into a bubble from a button. Firefox can do that for its history panel : short and quick history into a bubble, longer one into a sidebar anchored, and full version into a floating dedicated library window.
This is the same download web panel, but anchored elsewhere.You have to evaluate simply your downloads without loosing your current web panel. When you have a lot of download elements, a more heavy solution like sidebar/web panel is then better.
@kurevska_registracia said in Downloads Button Popup:
Yes, Firefox implementation is pretty great!
@Ornorm said in Downloads Button Popup:
Notice the scale flashing of the icon when downloads have finished (second image). This is a good solution to get user's attention. It seems that vivaldi has no solution to get attention when downloads queue is completed.
The color palette that @Ornorm suggests get easier to know how the download queue status is indeed.
But I'm nostalgic of the old firefox icon, this with duration indication from first image. Because the last 5% may take one minute as one hour, it depends how large are the files downloaded. And when you did severals, or your download a long file, you often forget time needs. -
@Seasonly said in Downloads Button Popup:
But I'm nostalgic of the old firefox icon
Yeah, it was bigger, and animation was better imo.
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@AlienProber said in Downloads Button Popup:
My suggestion is to have them in the status bar.
I personally disagree with this as it seems less optional for flashing animations and a popup web panel... but idk, anything's possible. /shrug
I'd just personally like to have it similar to Opera or Firefox where the download button is next to your user account icon
right now I don't even get to see a download icon at all
the only thing I see is a notification in the upper right of my screen whenever a download completes. -
@alexander-gorbovets When side panel opening on download is disabled, it's not even visible that the download has started, let alone the progress. You click the link, and nothing happens! Very confusing, especially for new users. (Why side panel opening is disabled? Well, for downloads, it's a strange UI design decision, to put it nicely. Anyway if someone decides to disable it, then Vivaldi should show elsewhere that the download is started, and the progress.)
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@Tcll There's an objective reason why status bar is not the right place for download indicators, or better said, it must not be the only place: the status bar can be set to Status Info Overlay mode, or disabled. Vivaldi meant to be about choice, so a basic function, like being able to see that a download has started, shouldn't force you to enable the status bar. (Let alone forcing you to enable the side panel opening on download, which I think is very annoying for many).
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@ddekany You do not have to enable Open Download Panel Automatically to see the download progress. You just need to keep the Panel Toolbar open, which takes only a small amount of space, which is not an issue on widescreen monitors.
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@Pesala But having a panel sitting there all day, because in 0.1% of the time there's a download in progress, is just a really poor choice. The main point of using Vivaldi over the standard browsers is exactly it's better, and more flexible UI. Plus, an IMHO quite reasonable mantra of modern browsers is removing clutter around the page content. (So having the side bar is an odd default to start with... but that's a different topic.)
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@ddekany Please read my post. You do not need to have the panel open. The panel toolbar is enough to show that a download is in progress. The panel toolbar can be quickly hidden with F4 and the Download panel can be shown/hidden with its shortcut (Default = Ctrl+Shift+D).
This feature request is for a downloads button, which does not show the progress — you have to click the button to view the download. With the panel toolbar the download icon remains in view at all times.
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@Pesala said in Downloads Button Popup:
This feature request is for a downloads button
downloads button on the Address Bar, Firefox-style. I have my side panel toolbar is always hidden.
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@Pesala Missed "Panel Toolbar" VS "Panel" difference there. With only panel toolbar, much better for sure, although still some unnecessary space and clutter. Also it's kind of hard to notice that icon changed (like no animation when it starts), not too good for new users.
Hiding with F4: Most users won't look for hotkeys much. Also it's not very plausible that someone will hide/unhide that panel just because of this. It will be just always visible, or always hidden in practice.
Last last time I remember, the factory default was opening the download panel on download, plus it wasn't in floating mode. Not an ideal default I think, might makes a bad impression.
The Firefox-style button does show progress right on the button as well, so that's part of the request. FF solution costs minimal space and clutter, and easier to spot when download starts. It's just a better solution for a basic function, so should be learnt from.
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@ddekany It is best to learn to use what is available now as this thread is not even tagged as In Progress or Pipeline yet. That means you could be waiting a year or more for it to be implemented.
- The default is now not to open the panel automatically
- The floating panel is disabled by default, but Auto-Close is enabled by default if the floating panel is enabled
- New users should read the help file, or ask how to get the most out of the program
- The FIrefox Button animation may help new users, but no one is a new user for long. Once you know about the Download Panel Toolbar icon, you know where to look when you start a download. Here, most downloads are completed by the time I get around to looking.
- FF solution costs minimal space even when not in use. The Download Panel shortcut can be used to show it only when needed, then hide the panel, leaving the toolbar open.
- F4 will hide the panel toolbar when it is not in use, but I would not call it useless clutter. There are dozens of useful web pages that can be added as web panels even if you don't use Bookmarks, Notes, History, or Email. I use only Bing Translator and a Vivaldi Feature Request search.
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@Pesala that's pretty sad to take years just to add a simple button with animated download progress bar and notification that opens a popup menu showing more detailed info on downloads...
I have a 5:4 widescreen monitor and still don't like the panel toolbar
as such I have no notification of download progress what so ever without clicking a button at the bottom left of my screen.don't forget some of us have already been waiting years for this and dealing with the current garbage...
I guess Vivaldi likes Opera and Firefox being superior in this area
what's even worse is there's not a single extension that tries to match Firefox
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@Pesala Only showing the panel toolbar (narrow vertical strip with only the icons on it) worked for a few days, but then I updated Vivaldi, and now the toolbar is not visible, only together with the whole panel. (Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find any related preferences anymore. I guess they changed this.) So, as the next alternative, now I have set up downloads to automatically open the panel, but with "Floating panel" and "Auto-close inactive panel" checked. So now if I start a download, the panel opens (so it's obvious that a download has started), without resizing the web page, and when I click somewhere outside it, it closes. Anyway, as a "power user" I can survive anything, I'm just wondering how would I set it up for less determined users.
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@ddekany Just set up easy to remember shortcuts to view the download panel.
F4 Shows/Hides all of the panels and the toolbar. Each panel can have its own shortcut, which shows/hides the panel, but does not hide the Panels Toolbar.
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@Pesala Ah, now I see, nothing has changed with the update. Simply the way auto-close works is confusing. If I close the panel with F4 when the download panel was still open, then next time I re-open the panel, the download "tab" won't auto-close anymore. I had to click the download icon to restore the original state, where the panel is open, yet the download "tab" is hidden.
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@ddekany If you never wanted to hide the Panel completely, then change the F4 shortcut to Open Next Panel instead. This will make the panel much easier to access & you can rotate panel by tapping F4 repeatedly.
Else, if you don't want to deal with all this confusion mess & prefer to have the panel hidden most of the time, you can try CSS mod to automate the panels' switch: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/378402
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@dude99 I'm fine with floating + download auto open + auto-close... after learning what not to click. But that, and especially all proposed CSS and hot key tricks are totally unrealistic, if you want people to chose Vivaldi over something else.
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@ddekany IMHO Vivaldi is a pretty nerdy browser at it's core, it's not well known to be "user friendly" to new user coming from other major browser. That's usually what happen to software priorities innovative functionalities over streamline & stylish GUI (like G.Chrome). Vivaldi have so much hidden functions that it require a lot more learning effort from new user, it will take months if not years to discover most of the hidden goodies.
So, it's totally normal for u to feel weird & overwhelmed by unorthodox designs & behaviors of this browser. Panel is actually an ancient feature adopted from old Opera, that's why some of it's behavior feels confusing & outdated, maybe it's time to rework the Panel's UI... LOL
In the last few updates they are trying to move toward modernizing the GUI, but I think it need more tweaking on UI behavior over simply eye candy upgrades.
