Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default
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@Subduction To be fair, ClassicOpera refugees also have decades-long muscle memory from the fact that ClassicOpera, as built by many of the same team members (and the same founder) who are building Vivaldi, invented "open in new tab" back in the mists of time before it was stolen by other browsers, and that function defaulted to open in foreground tab. So we (I for sure) could never get used to the counter-intuitive fact that if you tried to "open in new tab" in a chromium-based browser or firefox or an MS browser, it opened the tab but hid it in the background and you had to go looking for it. It always pissed me off after Opera turned to Chropera. So we fully expect the function to work the way it was invented - open in foreground. And as the original Opera designers designed Vivaldi, they made it to work for the very people they were trying to attract - ClassicOpera refugees who were chafing under the NeuOpera regime.
Understand, the way you got used to it was a corruption from the way it was invented. Still, there are multiples more users used to the corrupted version than used to the original version.
Hence, there will be customizable menus and you will be able to make it the way you want it.
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@Ayespy That's all fair, and again I understand that the devs of Vivaldi owe me nothing. That said, nobody is calling for the default behaviour to be removed or even not be made default, rather this seems to be a long-running issue that users have had for, to be clear, nearly half a decade. If it was one of those things that was an active-in-the-pipeline-with-a-date-in-mind then I could just set a calendar notification and switch to a different browser for a bit because, to be clear, Vivaldi seems really good. I just don't think "do things a different way" is a 'workaround' to an issue of "I don't want to take the time to do things differently". Respectfully that's less of a workaround and more telling new users to shut up and deal with it.
Interestingly, I'm a scientist and I see a lot of comments from other scientists and researchers about this feature, it's difficult when we need to open a couple of dozen papers in rapid succession and no, extra steps are not really a great option for us. What I don't understand is why not even have an experimental flag that effectively disables the tab switching entirely without touching the menu options (so both top options would open in the background). Ugly, sure, but from a coding perspective that is not the same beast as fully customizable right click menus.
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@Subduction said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
Again, there have been posts about this since 2016
Work on customizable menus overall only began recently.
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@Subduction I suspect such an experimental flag would not be trivial to implement.
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@Subduction said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
And respectfully, it's the best anyone can offer with Vivaldi. That's not the same as the best anyone can offer.
There is nothing respectful about your comment. Workarounds like Middle-click, Ctrl+click, or GestureDown over a link are the best answers that we can offer. Telling you to use another browser would not be respectful, nor would it be in your best interests,
We read the first post, but it changes nothing. It is not available yet. We are telling you that it is not even being worked on yet, so yes, you do have to deal with it and stop complaining.
@Ayespy I still have Opera 12.18 installed for its email client, and the default menu has Open at the top, and Open in New Tab below that, followed by Open in Background tab.
I modified the menu to remove the first, because Left Click does exactly the same thing. Opera also has an option to Reuse current tab for those links that try to force a new tab.
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And honestly, because in every post I've read on this topic, you telling people that the exact things they don't want to do are "workarounds" doesn't really seem respectful to user feedback. I can't middle click on a laptop, and ctrl+click is not a workaround for, you know, not wanting to ctrl+click. I see you referring to the exact behaviour people don't want to use as a workaround to that behaviour in almost every thread.
Either way, best of luck, I'll check Vivaldi out in a year or two I guess.
Have a lovely day, in any case, and stay healthy.
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I came here in search of this option, was very surprised that it’s not available. Vivaldi is such a powerful browser, the tab menu has so many customizations but something as vital as this is missing, that’s just weird. I know the workarounds, but if you’re also working with other browsers (especially iOS) they just don’t stick. An option to change the default would make everyone happy.
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@yusernamelol Being able to customize menus globally is being worked on.
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Vivaldi team!
2 Years is gone... but u cant fix this thing?
Just move this item in menu..ALL browsers working like needed .. only vivaldi not.
I read about "we will do cutom menu" but when?
Wait 1-2 years? we need to working.. need to surf around all sites and this is must be easy.Just.. DO IT)
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@stonefre You can customize the main menus in the latest snapshot. Nothing for the right-click context menu yet though.
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@stonefre said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
but when?
It's being worked on right now.
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This is standard web browser behaviour. Firefox has been doing this for years. It's an option in most other browsers.
I disagree that it "would create lots of tabs". I know what I'm clicking on and when I want to look at it.Please add this option.
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@simonwiles
Hi, there are several ways to open links in the background, I use MMB but there is also Shift+click.
Muscle memory is hard to change and it should be a setting to change it, a long awaited feature for some user.
If open link in background were default in Vivaldi I would think about to change the browser or change habits.Cheers, mib
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@ptaku2 This is literally what I came here for!
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@Pesala How are you an ambassador with this attitude lmao. "Wah stop complaining" as if it's so weird that people would like a functionality every other browser has managed to implement besides this one. It doesn't matter if you think Opera was the first to come up with tabs (they weren't, tabbed browsing was around since the mid 90s), the fact that every other competitor has been able to improve on them while this version has not is laughable. And your own actions as an "ambassador" make the rest of the team working on Vivaldi look even worse.
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@erisian Don't shoot the messenger just because you don’t like the message. I can only tell you that it is not currently being worked on, and tell you what I know about the reasons why.