Take our quick survey on Tabs in Vivaldi
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@wojcieche Its been broken for long enough that I can't actually remember when it last worked. I cycle in tab order with the visual preview disabled.
Currently it's in the best state it's been recently where it almost works. When I perform the feature, it doesn't work on some sites. Sometimes it slips many tabs at once instead of one at a time. Sometimes many seconds after finishing the gesture it continues to cycle through tabs. Sometimes it works fine, but with noticeable lag while performing the gesture.
And this may point isn't really a fault, just a design issue: when you have hibernated tabs, tab cycling reloads them when you go past them, rendering the hibernation pointless.
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@lonm That's the reason why I enabled the visual preview. When you just want to switch between the last and current tab with keyboard shortcut, the preview doesn't get in the way, but if you target another tab, no other tab takes focus on the way.
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I use the tabs differently according to the moment.
To move through them I use, with the mouse click, if there are few open ones or with the mouse wheel if there are more than 10.
Stacking I use only when I want to have several pages open in tiling.
Hibernate tabs I use little, I do not have many open as a rule (<20), only if I notice that the system slows down too much. -
@luetage Yeah, but if I do that, I find myself getting the tab cycler window stuck open sometimes, which means I end up having to click the tab I want anyway, just it's not in the tab cycler instead of the tab bar
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@wojcieche: For me it doesn't work at all. I keep RMB pressed and scroll the mouse wheel: the pages scrolls corresponding to the wheel and the right click menu shows up. No tab popup or tab switching or nothing. It worked months (or years?) ago but now I somewhat got used to it being broken. All other mouse gestures work fine. I looked at the settings but found no option that could cause a difference. (But maybe I'm just blind?)
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Not sure what you really gain from that short survey.. it doesn't even include what people prefer in tab management like.. which is what I find the most essential to non retarded browsing experience.. not sure how those people who make chrome get away with such poor options in providing tab management options, the fact users have to go find an extension that has to use a hacky way of reordering tabs to something less retarded is frankly amazing. I prefer tabs to be open to the right of the active tab, and when a tab is closed it should activate the left side.. ie "New Tab Position = After Active Tab" and
"Close Tab Activation = Activate Left in Tab Order" ... essential frankly. Anyway based on this survey not sure what you will get from it, though what I hope you get from it is, tab grouping implementation kinda sucks, and not many users use that or pin tabs, and both of them suffer from not enough options/customization. I think I do remember Opera having an implementation of tab grouping that was a bit better it was definietly the firs to do, while people at mozilla working on about of useless stuff. Anyway what you can really do to improve tabs is make it possible to split the tab bar in two, and have two seperate browsing windows complete with there own tab bar, where you can drag a tab from one window view to the other side.... if you open links in one frame then it creates a tab on that side of the tab bar vice versa.. also when there is no split window/tabbar, if the user drags the tab on the screen to the right or left edge then it creates the split.. ie best implementation of dualview tab browsing Maxthon2 ...all other implementations in other browsers have frankly sucked badly.. and Maxthon did that over 10 years ago.. pretty sad nothing better has come along since. https://koolio.vivaldi.net/2017/12/02/vivaldi-tab-split-vs-maxthon2-10years-ago/Mod edit: Profanities were removed.
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@joelyoung core features are missing and some really annoying bugs persist, I believe that's enough
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Done. I starting to think when it comes to tabs I'm pretty boring. Very rarely more than ten. Tab stack now and then. Close and switch using my mouse. Never noticed till now but if I didn't need to type I would have no use for the keyboard. Well...except for a few keyboard shortcuts. I do as much as I can by mouse.
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Hard to be more boring in regard to tabs than me. It is rare to have more than 2 open.
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Found this old thread. Both are related. Both are about tabs.
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/21493/how-many-tabs-do-you-usually-open?page=1 -
I mapped ctrl + right /left (up/down for vertical tabs) to switch tabs, while mapping shift + left/right for back /forth. I think those combinations are easily reached with just your right hand rather by feel without much visual searching for the keys..
Instead of tab stacking I use different windows for different topics. (One needs to exit by file-> exit to shut all windows synchronically if to have all windows restored at startup.)
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@fendar: You need to enable:
Settings -> Tabs -> TAB FEATURES -> Tab Cycling -> Switch tabs by scrolling
I also recommend you turning on Show Tab Cycler option in the same section, with the sub-option to display it as a list. -
@Songbird Best to look at the available options for Tab Thumbnails, Tab Cycling and Tab Stacks before complaining too much.
See Settings, Tabs.
Then vote for feature requests like Tab Stack Cycling
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@Songbird Did you select "Cycle in Tab Bar Order?"
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Did anyone ever publish the results of this survey, or was it for internal use only?
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@pesala: Yes, they were eventually published here: https://vivaldi.com/blog/tab-management-for-wizards/
And sorry this reply took a while! -