Pocket for Vivaldi

Para-Noid

One of the few things I miss from Firefox is their pocket. I found pocket so handy for saving web articles I wanted to read but couldn't at the time. Saving in Pocket was more handy than setting up a bookmark only to have to hunt through the many I had already saved. No need to clutter the GUI with a multitude of pinned tabs. I could "pocket" the article and delete it after reading it later. No need to add a bunch of extra panels. Just save to "pocket".

Pocket made simple...simple.

Yeah, I just updated FF after not using it for months and rediscovered Pocket.
I now miss Pocket.

LonM

There is an extension available for pocket:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-to-pocket/niloccemoadcdkdjlinkgdfekeahmflj

Given that some users of vivaldi (myself included) are averse to the inclusion of 3rd party tech by default, it seems like leaving it as an extension (an easily installable, yet optional, component) would be desirable.

Perhaps if pocket developed an open protocol that many different services used, maybe then Vivaldi could offer quick integration, allowing a user to specify which one without there being a need to directly "phone home" to one in particular.

Catweazle

Good feature, but you can save the URL in a note

Pesala

@catweazle I agree that copy to note is ideal for most situations.

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One can select just a key passage from the page to store in the note, rather than the entire article, saving space
One can give the note a short, meaningful title
Double-clicking the note will reopen the Web Page
The URL and date the note was saved are shown in the Panel
The note is save to sync and can be deleted when done with
The downside is if the article becomes unavailable later

I don't know how Firefox Pocket works. Does it save the entire web page locally?

greybeard

Since its inception in FF and it being copied by others I have yet to use it.
Just me I guess...
Would rather go through the trouble to set a bookmark if it is important enough. That is part of my usual workflow so I don't consider it extra work.

LonM

@pesala The idea behind pocket is it converts the page to a kind of reader-view like experience, which you can then view on other devices at a later date (like e-readers).

Para-Noid

My problem with each of your alternatives is that you are creating another bookmark and/or panel (remember notes are another form of panel). Pocket does save pages/url without the need of making a note, creating an unnecessary bookmark or panel. The only room Pocket takes up is in the extensions. Notes are nice but why open a panel when you don't need to. The only issue with the extension is that the user has to create another account and password.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-to-pocket/niloccemoadcdkdjlinkgdfekeahmflj?hl=en-US

Thank @LonM for the link.

greybeard

@para-noid said in Pocket for Vivaldi:

The only issue with the extension is that the user has to create another account and password.

Therein lies the issue for me.
Yet another login, for an extension no less, written by someone I don't know.
We all know that google/chrome/gmail allows third party developers to milk our personal information (see this article. In my view I will keep that to a minimum. Since I do not know enough to audit the extension, it is not for me, even though they seem to be tightening things up for extensions for chrome ver.70 .
Yes, I have trust issues.

LonM

@greybeard said in Pocket for Vivaldi:

Yes, I have trust issues.

You don't have trust issues. Trust must be earned, especially on the internet. Acting with scepticism is, in my mind, the correct behaviour on the internet.

Para-Noid

Like I said it's an issue. I agree, I don't like to have countless accounts needing passwords.
That is why I'd like to see this developed for Vivaldi by Vivaldi. I for one do not like to have
very many extensions. I use a bare minimum of extensions. I only have what I absolutely need.

greybeard

@lonm Many Thanks !!

Dantesoft

I trust Mozilla and Vivaldi about the same, so I don’t have a problem keeping desktop-useful things in Notes (yey for fast search) and mobile-useful things in Pocket (yey for comute reading).

I also only keep must-have extensions (i.e. privacy-related stuff) because I’ve seen enough “accidents” of bad updates, and browsers don’t yet help users evaluate trustworthy publishers and their (new) code.
I find that very many extensions’ core functionality can just be replaced with a good old bookmarklet (some JavaScript know-how may be required).

For Pocket specifically, I have setup a new search engine

Name: save to Pocket
Nickname: pp
URL: https://getpocket.com/save ?url=%s (remove the space before the question mark)

so I just prefix the article address with “pp ” and go.

Catweazle

In the Chromestore also exist Wallabag. It's the same as Pocket, but while Pocket is Proprietary, Wallabag is OpenSource and completely free
Website https://wallabag.org/en
Github https://github.com/wallabag/wallabagger
Windows, Android, iOS
Chrome, Firefox, Opera
PocketBook, Kobo, Kindle

You can import from Pocket

88- 0

Hey @Catweazle, thanks. I didn't know about Wallabag. Cool.
Still, I want to stick with Pocket due to my huge cache of research articles. Downloading Pocket (again) from Google merely offers to uninstall it from Chome as I also run Chrome browser and of course Google thinks Vivaldi is Chrome. Any work arounds?

Catweazle

@88-0 said in Pocket for Vivaldi:

Hey @Catweazle, thanks. I didn't know about Wallabag. Cool.
Still, I want to stick with Pocket due to my huge cache of research articles. Downloading Pocket (again) from Google merely offers to uninstall it from Chome as I also run Chrome browser and of course Google thinks Vivaldi is Chrome. Any work arounds?

Google knows that it is not Chrome, but like any browser based on Chromium, Vivaldi can also use the Chrome Store extensions.

88- 0

@Catweazle Thanks. Do you happen to know how to get Vivaldi to run with Pocket? I want to migrate back to Vivaldi from FireFox, but cannot until Pocket is once again viable here.

Para-Noid

@88-0 I don't think adding Pocket as a feature is very high up on the devs list. There is a Pocket extension available. Try here https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/pocket?hl=en-US A handy bookmark for the Chrome Web Store is not a bad idea.

88- 0

@Catweazle said in Pocket for Vivaldi:

In the Chromestore also exist Wallabag. It's the same as Pocket, but while Pocket is Proprietary, Wallabag is OpenSource and completely free
Website https://wallabag.org/en
Github https://github.com/wallabag/wallabagger
Windows, Android, iOS
Chrome, Firefox, Opera
PocketBook, Kobo, Kindle

You can import from Pocket

Import....? Oh I missed that previously. By the way, while the opensource may be free, for those of us who do not want to set it up and run it on our own server, it is available from wallabag.it/en but that comes (natch) at the cost of 25€/year.

One of the very nice things about Wallabag.it versus Pocket is that Wallabag.it states:
"Because your data belongs to you, we don't want to store them on US servers. That's why we only chose European partners, like Online (french web hoster), MailJet (french emailing service) or PayPlug (french payment solution)."

Yes. wise. Especially as the U.S. slips more and more towards the old Soviet Union model

88- 0

I just downed wallabag.it/en and did their setup key (generated from Pocket) plugged it into Wallabag and clicked "Connect to Pocket and Import Data". NOPE.

Vivaldi refuses to actuate that button. So...after moving it all to Chrome and doing the same, Wallabag says "Failed to import"

Aside from Wallabag's admirable non-U.S. policy, I need the Pocket service which is the height of simplicity and it works.

Please allow users who wish it, to install and run Pocket as an add-on. That decision should really be the user's choice. At least if freedom is a value. No?

88- 0

Ha, ha, ha....now I'm thoroughly confused. In the process of adding "Wallabag.it" to Vivaldi, Pocket was also added....and works like it used to.

No complaints there. But I remain confused. I thought Vivaldi engineers blocked Pocket from being added.