Better Cookie Management

[Marko Indaco]

Guys I write here because I think should fit with the thread. I really appreciate a feature for "locking cookies". In this way it's more comfortable when you have for example hundreds of cookies stored and you want to delete it without delete the needed ones. Also an option to "hide locked cookies" it could be useful to separate the needed ones with the useless. For now I'm using an extension... but i think a better customization would be very appreciated.
Look at the screenshot (my dears) that I edit with lot of Ammore!

[CheVe11e_191]

FYI, this request is internally under VB-40179

[greybeard]

@luetage Although I agree in principle, a Whitelist for me, would not be as useful as a Blacklist or Blocklist as O12 had.

[LonM]

I've thought of an additional use case for this, albeit quite an esoteric one.

The BBC requires a login to access iplayer. I don't want them to tie the news articles I read, my location checking weather, etc. to an account.

It might be nice to be able to only allow the cookies to load on certain paths, e.g. on bbc.co.uk/iplayer/* but not on bbc.co.uk/news, for example.

This seems like it would be going overboard though, as I can only think of the 1 example. In the meantime, just clearing the cookie after I'm done watching something is enough.

[Para-Noid]

Could there be a conflict between "chrome\settings etc" and "vivaldi\settings etc"?

[luetage]

@para-noid Don't think so. If you switch something in Vivaldi settings, it switches in chromium settings too. After all what the overlapping cookie settings do is switching already existing code in the chromium base.

[Para-Noid]

@luetage Thanks. I wasn't sure if there was an overlap or not. Do you know if the devs are working to eliminate the "chrome\settings etc" altogether? Sometimes redundancy is not good.

[TalGarik]

@luetage said in Better Cookie Management:

@para-noid Don't think so. If you switch something in Vivaldi settings, it switches in chromium settings too.

I am not so sure about this, for sure it doesn't work this way with search settings

[becm]

@talgarik there are deviations for user interface configuration.

Many (most, all?) UI settings go to mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli app storage, due to Vivaldi being a Chromium app.

Changes in the Chromium type settings for those elements would apply to the (unused) native UI.

[snertev]

A management tool for Local Storage is really needed, especially for automatic deletion on browser exit.

[LonM]

I was trying to make an extension to allow me to clear my ephemeral data in one click, but it seems the chrome extension API only lets you manage cookies in an advanced fashion and can't let you easily change local storage entries.

This is rather unfortunate, as I imagine that would make it more difficult for the Vivaldi developers to implement any kind of management of local storage alongside cookies.

[Hadden89]

@LonM Yup. Chrome APIs don't allow it to extensions. Most cookie blockers face this.
There are still two blockers in their bug tracker.
New Firefox (e10s) seems to have the same problem.
Would be really cool to have this in Vivaldi. But I imagine how it can be hard.
I don't even open cookie page anymore because is a collection of junk which is not very pratical to clean.

[gml]

@CheVe11e_191 What's the description of this issue in Jira pretty please?

This thread seems to cater all sorts of different wishes to improve how cookies are managed.

I'd like to add to this list the following wish:

1. Delete cookies older than a month or used or visited more than a month ago and only keep cookies being used on day to day basis.

2. Allow to delete all cookies, except some selected ones. Basically create a simple rule engine such as if this then than (IFTT) type of scenario to helps us manage them better.

It's annoying to close the browser and log in again in every site we use every day.

Or if you know a better behavior, please share...

[Hadden89]

@gml That's because is quite hard to re-implement to do what most users ask here at level browser; that VB is not even a real issue, it just (probably) contains the tips we ask here.

Personally, I keep all cookies and leave the cleaning up matter to CAD with the policy "keep whitelisted cookies + remove other ones every 20000sec" (about 333minutes).

[Obiwan2208]

One of the best was Vanilla Cookie Manager which (unsurprisingly) has been removed from the WebStore and archived on Github. I keep it by installing it from local.

Deletes cookies from 5-60min with the option to do so at browser startup as well. Of course excluding the Whitelist.

[Hadden89]

@Obiwan2208 I actually think the dev withdraw it from the store himself being deprecated.
It doesn't handle IndexedDB, LocalStorage, Plugin Data and Service Workers as more updated extensions do.

[tob1as]

I'm using Cookie AutoDelete now and it should also handle Local Storage:

[Obiwan2208]

@Hadden89 for moment I don't need indexedDB, LocalStarage, etc, just need a more flexible cookie manager than Chromium/Vivaldi can give me today.

Don't misunderstanding, Vivaldi is good , I know finally we'll get we want...but as normal requires time. God taken 6 days to make the World.

@tob1as do you mind if I ask what's exactly a Greylist?
And can be used the delay of AutoCleaning to keep "unwanted" cookies for 5-15min? This is for feel free looking for info without worried to keep one tab from "unwanted" domain and delete sessions or prefs (AutoCleaning feature when close tabs).

Although it's a bit , I hope I make myself understood.

[sdtbluethink]

Is an adaptation of the dialogue in progress?
chrome://settings/cookies
Actually, only the three fields for the cookie exceptions are missing?

[Hadden89]

@Obiwan2208 said in Better Cookie Management:

what's exactly a Greylist?

Session only ruleset.

can be used the delay of AutoCleaning to keep "unwanted" cookies for 5-15min?

Why not? Personally I keep the AutoClean in this way too avoid too much "interferences" with the browsing.

I won't touch domain change as it could breaks sites which have cookies from different domains in same session (eg: paypal+ebay)

Just place 900sec and you're on, I'd avoid 300sec to not overhead too much the browser with extension activity