Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

Preorian

@barbudo2005

Could you please elaborate what you mean with those? And what do you mean by "If not, you are late.", late for what?

barbudo2005

@Preorian

You have to do this modification on the registry to maintain MV2 until June 2025:

Read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1bp5rj2/chrome_automatic_update_from_ubo_to_ubo_lite/

The settings mentioned above allow you to verify that they were well done.

I think that the modification must be made before the end of the month.

thewiley

@catweazle:
uBO Lite is much less capable but still FOSS from the same author and thus just as trustworthy.

Firefox has its own store and is not affected by any of this.

Even with Google removing uBO from the Chrome extension store, I would still be able to sideload it if Vivaldi chose to continue support for Mv2.

Preorian

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

You have to do this modification on the registry to maintain MV2 until June 2025:

Ok. And how to do it with Linux?

EDIT: And it's not too late then if done by the end of the month?

npro

@Preorian said

And how to do it with Linux?

( Follow this thread... https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98415/policies-for-vivaldi )

/added: or if you want to be that tl;dr type of person see my next reply...

npro

@npro @Preorian

sudo mkdir -p /etc/chromium/policies/managed && cd $_

sudo tee butiwanttousemanifestV2.json <<EOF
{
"ExtensionManifestV2Availability": 2
}
EOF

(/late edit: for anyone else interested in using this method, obviously I'm joking with the name of the file, use a... better one? )

ybjrepnfr

@npro said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

butiwanttousemanifestV2

butiwanttousemanifestV2aswellaststfunctionality

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

butiwanttousemanifestV2aswellaststfunctionality

ithoughtwecoveredthislasttime

ybjrepnfr

@npro

npro

@ybjrepnfr

Isn't it splendid on top of everything else wrong?

ybjrepnfr

@npro

Stardust

As many of you know, Google is forcing an update from manifest v2 to v3, which will have a limited impact on Vivaldi thanks to its built-in functionality.

I don't use internal Vivaldi Ad Blocker, I use uBlock Origin - the best extension ever created. And the impact will be huge when uBlock Origin couldn't work as efficient as it works today in Vivaldi.

So I will have to make Firefox with uBlock Origin my main browser and demote Vivaldi as auxiliary browser

I always thought Google engine was a mistake..

zakius

@barbudo2005 won't the saner chromium forks just behave like the policy is set without your intervention though? that would be the most reasonable approach, very easy patch and better UX
what comes after Chromium removes the API may be more complex, some forks may attempt to just skip the removal, but at some point that will be too costly to keep going

edualc1011

@Team_Vivaldi

You wrote: 'so you don’t have to trust an unknown third party and worry that it’s in danger of going away. '

I beg your pardon? We're tallking about uBlock Origin which is NOT and unknown "third party'' and may the the best as and tracker blocker with many useful feature not offer by the Vivaldi built-in blocker...

I like the features of Vivaldi browser but I realize the limit of a browser based on Google stuff and dependant on the Google diktats.

I'm ready to ditch Vivaldi with no uBlock Origin. The "light" version is not an option. Very sad news.

zakius

@edualc1011 well, "everything built in" is the perfect world, but unfeasible to achieve
good extensions API including well grained permissions system, strict but quick reviews in the official extensions repository and ability to trust whoever you want outside of it would be the best (or the most realistic at least) way to achieve lots of power, even with the ability to take vastly different approaches to the same problems

as content blockers sit in the critical path and affect every single request it is important for them to be performant and implementing them natively, without the need to cross the language barrier with all the costly conversions, is preferred, but not at the cost of not being able to set them up properly, we need a native blocker, but as capable as uBO

Catweazle

@edualc1011, the whole web depends on the Google dictat, the browser is a less problem, Chromium is 100% FOSS and can be modified, but not the webstandards optimized for Blink as the main engine in browsers, wich is causing more and more compatibility issues for browsers with other engines. THIS is the real Google dictat, >80% of the websites use Google APIs, even a lot of FOSS and Mozilla send account data to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics, Vivaldi don't, despite being Chromium, it's only problem is the dependence of the Chrome store. It's not that Vivaldi support Mv2, when the by Google gutted extensions in the store don't.

T.Hering

This is the real problem when individual companies become too powerful and fair competition no longer takes place. History repeats itself (Microsoft vs. Netscape). Mozilla is now financially dependent on Google and would otherwise have disappeared from the market long ago. The user can change their behavior by relying on alternatives.

Stardust

@edualc1011 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

I beg your pardon? We're tallking about uBlock Origin which is NOT and unknown "third party'' and may the the best as and tracker blocker with many useful feature not offer by the Vivaldi built-in blocker...

uBlock Origin became a such essential tool that you can't imagine safe browsing without it.

barbudo2005

If what I say below is very silly (as a commercial in my country says) please clarify it for me:

I was checking Floorp at @ybjrepnfr's suggestion and I find it has many more settings possibilities than Firefox since it incorporates many Mods and some extensions are already built in.

So, with gorhill's permission, wouldn't it be possible to incorporate uBO entirely to Vivaldi and let's stop this nonsense?

Stardust

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

So, with gorhill's permission, wouldn't it be possible to incorporate uBO entirely to Vivaldi and let's stop this nonsense?

I don't know how hard it would be to incorporate uBO into Vivaldi when Vivaldi drops Mv2 and make it as efficient as stock uBO version for Firefox. But in case it would be possible I say let's hire gorhill to do it!