Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

barbudo2005

@Stardust said:

Has YouTube changed something again? My uBO keeps blocking everything, I never saw unskippable ads for years.

Don't feel so happy, it's a country and time thing.

Stardust

@barbudo2005 we will see, uBO!

barbudo2005

@Stardust

I wish you that your happiness will never end.

stpvid1

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

Preorian

@stpvid1 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

IIRC that was a separate thing.

eldritchsnail

For anyone worried about losing uBlock origin, might I propose a solution, at least for (some, hopefully all) Linux users?
I go to the github page for the uBlock changelog ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases ), and download the Chromium asset zip file, then unzip it in my Home directory, and copypaste the contents into a folder just titled "uBlock" (replacing the contents with every new update). If you put vivaldi extensions into developer mode, you can manually install uBlock from that file, without having to use the google webstore at all.
(instructions here, for anyone interested: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/tree/master/dist#install )
(P.S.: if I'm reading this whole situation wrong and uBlock won't even work while manually installed, please let me know because I'd like to prepare for that lol)
EDIT: also, does anyone know if the vivaldi team considering making their own extension architecture in the future at all?

Pathduck

@eldritchsnail Hi - good tip - however this won't work once Manifest v2 has been removed. You won't be able to add Mv2 extensions at all, even unpacked.

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed so don't ask

ybjrepnfr

@eldritchsnail said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

download the Chromium asset zip file

playing devil's advocate;

once google completely remove mv2 code from their engine next year, why would @gorhill bother still maintaining his chromium uBO mv2 code... ie, i suspect your idea might be severely time-limited...?

eldritchsnail

@Pathduck Ah, that's a shame, but thank you for clarifying!

ybjrepnfr

@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed

oh, i do...

Stardust

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed

oh, i do...

F*****x?

barbudo2005

@Stardust

Said:

F*****x?

"x" means "ck" or "rp"?

ybjrepnfr

@barbudo2005 heehee, spot on, tis indeed rp, though ofc that's forked from the Fox.

fwiw, my enthusiasm for floorp [which is now the same kind of passion i once enjoyed from 2015 with vivaldi, rip], is coz it focuses on the stuff important to me in a browser, without any of the sad crap vivaldi has diverged off into & is thus irrelevant for me. once, the early mantra of being "a browser for our friends" resonated strongly with me, but unfortunately for the past several years those words seem more ironic than accurate.

the beginning of the end was the day [a few years ago] i finally got it thru my thick skull that vivaldi devs & jon seem entirely uninterested in giving us another tab management paradigm option, being tst, which is so palpably superior to the current meagre options. more recently though, with the advent of "don't be evil corp" mv2 shenanigans & the consequent impending death of chromium uBO, i realised that even if vivaldi magically gave me native tst tomorrow [with comparable functionality to sidebery], it still would be too late, coz i refuse to use any browser that can't run mv2 uBO.

tis all such a pity.

Stardust

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

fwiw, my enthusiasm for floorp [which is now the same kind of passion i once enjoyed from 2015 with vivaldi, rip], is coz it focuses on the stuff important to me in a browser,

there is a new browser (and engine) in Town - Ladybird
(in early development stage)

https://ladybird.org

Catweazle

@Stardust, sounds good, but I'll believe it when I see it in 2026, launching a browser with a new independent engine build from scratch (???).
Not the first one who tried it, among the already 70 abandoned browsers out there.

ybjrepnfr

@Stardust ta for that. yes, i only learned of this a few nights ago, & then found it's very early in its development.

Preorian

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

it's very early in its development

That's an understatement.

We are targeting a first Alpha release for early adopters in 2026.

Roughly 2 years and they MIGHT have a first alpha release. I wish them luck on their endeavours, would be a breath of fresh air for browsing world.

Catweazle

2 Years? We'll see, but there are good reasons why there hasn't been a new engine for 20 years, just improving the existing ones.
In essence there are only 2, Gecko and fork (Goanna) and KHtml and forks (WebKit, Blink and Qt).
Even if they get it in 2 years, it will be buggy for another >5, until they have the development of the existing ones, they will not survive this.

luetage

@Catweazle Survive? They’re not trying to make money. People need to keep investing time is the issue and with slow progress and web standards keeping expanding and getting more convoluted they will have a hard time catching up before abandoning.

luetage

@Stardust I read about it too, it was all over reddit. I bookmarked it and will check on it in a few years, if I don’t forget about it. It’s a bold endeavor.