Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12

DoctorG

For users and their trust in companies it could be better if VPN relay would be on Vivaldi servers at Island.
But that is a matter of cost (ok, i think users are willing to pay) and as users are from different countries a server over the world are needed as routing all to Island is not applicable.

Oh, look Ma! They do datatransfer to other countries. NOPE!
https://invisv.com/privacy#:~:text=Jurisdiction and CROSS-BORDER TRANSFER

GRMMPFFF!

If you are located in the EU/EEA and you have concerns regarding the processing of your Personal Information, you may also lodge a complaint with an EU/EEA supervisory authority.

Look Ma! They joke on us!
https://invisv.com/privacy#:~:text=on the Services.-,CONTACTING US,-INVISV%2C INC.%2C located

No Ma!, i do not join this strange club of VPNners.

daniel

@derDay So, you like the feature I spent 70 minutes on but not the one the team spent months on?

derDay

@daniel
uhm, yes

(RSS fan)

Chas4

23rd updated

funkytoad

I can't connect to any website with privacy guard enabled.

Pathduck

@funkytoad And what's the error message you get?

Are you able to connect to the relay directly? Try using telnet or netcat from a command line.

$ nc -v fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com 443
Connection to fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com (136.144.49.43) 443 port [tcp/https] succeeded!

$ telnet fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com 443
Trying 136.144.49.43...
Connected to fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

funkytoad

@Pathduck It doesn't seem to actually connect. It says connected, but remains "Fetching" public IP. Neither nc nor telnet are recognized commands. I think my computer is on lock down...
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Levrini

VB-104434 - All right, APKMirror links seems to be working again , but other kinds of js bugs are still there, for example sammobile:

@Levrini said in 6.6.3271.45 - JavaScript bug (VB-104434):

It was hard to find another site where this happens, but here is one: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/. When there, open any firmware page, there will be a custom drop-down selector for choosing a Country. In Vivaldi, the selector won't work and won't load any page.

Pathduck

@funkytoad My guess is you're on some sort of private business network, probably already set to use a VPN or Proxy outbound connection, which just blocks the connection to the Invisiv proxy.

You can check this here: chrome://net-internals/#proxy
It won't necessarily show up, the proxy connection might be set on the OS level.

You can install telnet as a standard part of Windows Features.
Netcat can be downloaded from http://nc110.sourceforge.io/
Or better as part of Nmap, named Ncat: https://nmap.org/download.html#windows
It's very useful for troubleshooting network connectivity.

You can also check connectivity with PowerShell, all Windows machines have it.

λ Test-NetConnection fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com -port 443         

ComputerName     : fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com                     
RemoteAddress    : 136.144.49.43                                           
RemotePort       : 443                                                     
InterfaceAlias   : Ethernet                                                
SourceAddress    : 192.168.0.10                                            
TcpTestSucceeded : True

You should also be able to open this url in the browser:
https://fastest.vivaldi.stations.invisv.com
You will get a warning about the certificate, choose proceed, you will get a message "method not allowed" which means you can connect.

igromad

Interesting, looking forward to hearing users' feedback.

funkytoad

@Pathduck "FortiGuard Intrusion Prevention - Access Blocked". I'm on lock down. I'll test it out from home. Thanks

DoctorG

Four our Deutsch speaking Vivaldi friends:
c't 3003: Sind VPNs unnötig?

solidsnake

@daniel said:

@derDay So, you like the feature I spent 70 minutes on but not the one the team spent months on?

I assume most users would also be more happy with fixing bugs that take so long.

alphy

In all honesty, I would prefer this kind of 3rd party stuff be an extension and not built into Vivaldi, so that it can be fully removed.

After looking around the web for info about Invisv, I found that they are funded by several venture capital firms. This means they will eventually go public (or at least go the enshitification route) and really can't be trusted. At some point they will sell out their users to "make number go up" and please those investors.

I don't think this company is going to be trustworthy long-term and would prefer not to have anything from them built into my browser. I may have to consider moving back to Firefox if Vivaldi starts getting into these kinds of deals.

PS: I would never pay for this service.

DoctorG

@daniel I am always happy about team member @daniel fixing bugs.
Hihi, such nice Coding (not my words )
Well, some kudos from a Ol' Coding Grandma.

alphy

@DoctorG Like most of these VPN "security" products, red flags everywhere. Really disappointed in Vivaldi for trying to partner with them.

And it gets worse:
To third parties in the event of reorganization.

Your Personal Information may be disclosed to third parties in the event of any reorganization, merger, sale, joint venture, partnership, assignment, transfer, or other disposition of all or any portion of our business, assets, or stock (including in connection with any bankruptcy or similar proceedings).

DoctorG

@alphy I guess it is experimental, to check if users want it. Let us see what Vivaldi will do after May with such VPN feature.

DoctorG

@daniel
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stardepp

Feel free to check your location here if you have changed it via Privacy Guard:

https://www.ipchecktool.com

derDay

@daniel
ha, I remembered correctly after all. you can set this/my feature request to done