Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12

[jrkl]

Read their privacy policy and I'm not going to use this "trap". Please do not include this by default or at least let me remove it. I'm pretty sure some people are willing to use it, but I'm not one of them.

https://invisv.com/privacy.

[luetage]

@jrkl If you don’t activate it, it doesn’t run. It’s disabled by default. I would say there is no need for paranoia concerning a feature that isn’t turned on. If you think Vivaldi implemented it in a way that compromises your privacy when turned off, your trust is apparently so low in the company that you shouldn’t use the rest of the features either. There’s nothing more to talk about then.

People have to realize that Vivaldi needs to make money. Last time we heard about it they didn’t break even yet. And they have no investors. I would say this is a good initiative. If the feature isn’t for you, don’t use it. Arguing actively against it is somewhat detrimental. Should you want to use Vivaldi for the foreseeable future, you figuratively shoot yourself in the foot with the negativity. That is actually directed at everyone in this topic.

[mib2berlin]

Hi, Vivaldi use Lingvanex to translate text or web pages but the Vivaldi browser doesn't send any data to Lingvanex, it use it's own server.
The privacy policy of Lingvanex is not relevant here, they don't get any user data anyway.
I hope it is the same for the Privacy Guard, we just need more information.
As for other features in Vivaldi like mail, ad blocker or whatnot, if you don't need it don't use it.

Cheers, mib

[DoctorG]

@luetage said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:

People have to realize that Vivaldi needs to make money.

Well, as i am one of such "people" crowd: i would pay annual money for a VPN proxy if such service would be in a country with better privacy laws.
I am not happy about outsourcing privacy services.

[jrkl]

@luetage Maybe you should read what's in the link I send instead of calling me paranoia. Please quote me where I stated that my trust in the company is low, unless you made this up for some (idiotic) reason. Please tell me which part of my request was so unreasonable that you have to respond this way. If you can't, there is nothing more to talk about.

Edit: I asked for removal, but I should have said "remove from toolbar".

[mib2berlin]

@DoctorG
Try to change the relay to fastest, it connect a server in Frankfurt for me then.
There are a lot of companies there that I would never trust, but at least it's Europe.

[zvaranka]

This Privacy Guard sounds great on first reading, and even better on second reading.

[Stardust]

You need a Vivaldi.net account in order to use Privacy guard.

I am not gonna try it then

we may offer this in our stable release as a premium feature

a paid feature? Not interested

To third parties in the event of reorganization.

Your Personal Information may be disclosed to third parties in the event of any reorganization, merger, sale, joint venture, partnership, assignment, transfer, or other disposition of all or any portion of our business, assets, or stock (including in connection with any bankruptcy or similar proceedings).

https://invisv.com/privacy

doesn't sound good to me

[DoctorG]

@mib2berlin said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:

Try to change the relay to fastest, it connect a server in Frankfurt for me then.

OMG! Yes, Frankfurt, good! I trust much more our German Minister of Interior Affairs/Antiterrorism/AntiHackers and our German Minister of Digital Affairs.
Haha. Now i am

[Pathduck]

Wow, people sure got lots of opinions on stuff nobody's forcing them to use ...

[DoctorG]

@Pathduck Vivaldi wanted feedback on new features, now it is forbidden to talk about? Wow!

Lastly, thanks for using Vivaldi, and please give it a go and let us know what you think.
– https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/privacy-guard-your-privacy-matters-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-3319-12/

@Pathduck said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:

people sure got lots of opinions on stuff nobody's forcing them to use

Sorry. You do kill discussion this way.

We can wait some weeks and the look at upvotes of post #1 if such VPN feature is as good as desired.

[Pathduck]

@DoctorG I never said people can't have opinions, just that clearly they have a lot of them

[DoctorG]

@Pathduck Let us see if users have much use for new feature.

[DoctorG]

Seems some websites detect use on VPN proxies.
But i think users should check their own favorite web addresses.

[derDay]

mhh, rss detection at github only work at the releases page, is that correct? @daniel

Win10 22H2

[Catweazle]

I found this paper about MPR

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.04009v1.pdf

[Geniusak]

I wonder how this privacy guard compares with "spn" thing that safing has been developing https://safing.io/blog/2022/09/06/spn-vs-vpns/

They seem to have similar goals of zero trust.

If this does become a thing I hope it's an open protocol that we can use any provider for, including vivaldi itself

[Zalex108]

Thx!

It looks like a kind of Opera VPN

[greenenemy]

Most people already know what a VPN is, so I recommend changing the name to 'VPN+' because when someone looks for a browser with a VPN, they would likely glance over Vivaldi's features and just skip it. Initially, when I saw "Privacy Guard," my first thought was that it was some kind of tracker blocker or something.

[t0yz]

Not bad.
Considering existing free VPNs, I don't see how this can be sold as a premium feature.
I think what would work best is to sell multiple servers and additional settings and allow a basic version to be free.
I will use this as a VPN for this month to see how it performs, usually using Mullvad or Windscribe.