Lost a lot of tabs
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Hello everyone.
To keep it short, I came to Vivaldi a few months ago because Firefox kept losing my tabs again and again, and there was no sensible way of backup.
Vivaldi was doing very good. But in a recent update of the Vivaldi iPhone app, I lost about a hundred tabs. The tab button had the "more than a hundred" symbol in the past, and today I noticed it was down to 35. I checked and the oldest tab is from a few days ago
Is there anything I can do? I'm logged in to sync.
Best regards
Björn
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Tabs are volatile in any browser. Use bookmaks or saved pages for sites and pages you want to always have access to.
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Thanks for your hint, so they're lost? It's a shame that today's mobile devices are so powerful yet no one seems to care anymore about users' data or even the possibility of backing it up.
I beg to differ on "any browser" however: On PC with Tab Session Manager I've never lost a single tab with Firefox, Chrome or Vivaldi because it is able to do ⊠backups!
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We're sorry for the trouble, that's definitely not the experience we want you to have with Vivaldi.
Have you checked the Closed Tabs page? If not, open the Tab Switcher and tap on the trash can icon next to Synced tabs' cloud icon.
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This happened to me as well. Same as with the OP, it happened after an update a week ago. In my case, I went from having about 40 to 50 opened tabs down to 20 after the update. I realized it had happened when I used the Tab Switcher to go to an older tab that I check on about once a week and it was near the top of my opened tabs when it was in the middle before.
First, I thought this was done on purpose. Clearing out tabs that had not been used in a while, since the tabs that disappeared appear to all be ones I haven't clicked on in a while. Firefox iOS does something like that but they are moved under Inactive Tabs so they aren't closed or removed completely like it appears in this case. They are not under Private in the Tab Switcher and never were private. I looked for some under the closed tabs, the trash can, and I couldn't find them there either. I have no memory of closing close to 30 tabs recently.
Then I unexpectedly found them yesterday. But I didn't find them on my iPhone, instead I found them under the cloud button on the Mac version of Vivaldi. I had set up my iPhone and Mac versions of Vivaldi to sync yesterday for the firs time. After I set it up, I clicked on the cloud button to check if the tabs on my iPhone had synced successfully and that's where I found them. They are listed there under a separate window from the tabs that are currently open on my iPhone. Does Vivaldi iOS even have the ability to do multiple windows? I tried looking for it.
What I am wonder is, is this a feature or did something go wrong somewhere?
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@jane-n Yes, I've already checked the closed tabs, list is empty.
@urimcal09 That's a good hint, I've got another Vivaldi on Windows, I'll check there.EDIT: @Urimcal09 Rejoice! It's the same here. The cloud sync menu on Vivaldi Windows shows two windows for my mobile device, the current one and the one with the (not-so-) lost tabs!
Thanks a lot for the hint!They show as "Window with 35 tabs on <mydevice>" and "Window with 189 tabs on <mydevice>". Might be a bug.
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@chr0n0ss Same happened to me when I updated that. Lost around 48 tabsâŠ
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@hyperboraeer Sad to hear that. Could you recover nothing using sync?
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The 6.7 update wiped out all my tabs on all three of my iPad Pros (3rd, 5th, and 6th gens). It worked okay on the iPhone which only had a few inconsequential tabs. I've more or less reconstructed one set, but it required a bunch of extra work at an especially inconvenient time. The one bright spot was that the process required fewer steps per tab than other browsers I've had to reconstruct in the past. This is the first major problem I've had with Vivaldi, but it has made me trust it less.
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Iâve had the same thing happen to me after the 6.7 update. And it just happened to me now, randomly. Itâs not ideal if you lose your tabs every now and then, seemingly at random. I really hope they fix this soon. For now, Iâve been relying on filtering through my recent tabs to recover the ones I lost and pinning some of the more important ones. Hopefully pinning tabs keeps them from closing randomly.
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I think I figured something out. It seems like opening Vivaldi in a slide out window then closing it is one cause of lost tabs. Iâm able to reliably repeat this on my end when I have the youtube app open in the background.
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@Invalidar said in Lost a lot of tabs:
Hopefully pinning tabs keeps them from closing randomly.
Unfortunately pinning doesn't stop their loss, or at least it hadn't stopped mine, when I had a similar crash.
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@starfleeting Yup, figured that out the hard way. Though I expected it when I was testing out different ways to lose tabs, so it wasnât as big a deal.
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OP here. It happened again, that is to say my tabs disappeared on the mobile device. Checking on my Desktop Vivaldi, the lost tabs were added to the aforementioned âhiddenâ synced window. Strange.
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Happened to me again when using Vivaldi on Stage Manager mode. So far, it happens to me when using Vivaldi as a slide over window or when opening Vivaldi in Stage Manager mode. I really hope they fix this soon. I love Vivaldi and being unable to multitask with it really limits its usability for me.
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@Invalidar When you're using slide over mode and close it then the tabs will be closed too, as you're closing the window. It's like closing a window with its tabs on desktop.
As for tabs unexpectedly closing in other cases. We've been looking into it, but so far haven't found a reliable way to reproduce the issue and until we do, we unfortunately won't be able to fix it.
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@jane-n I think in that case, opening a slide over window shouldnât open your previous session and should instead create a new session. That way, any tabs I would have wanted to save wonât be touched. Or better yet, I think it shouldnât close the tabs in the first place if opening my previous session. I personally think that tabs should only ever be closed when the user wants them closed. If the slide over thing is working as intended, I think it should be clearly communicated how it works so misunderstandings like this wonât happen.
Edit: Trying the same process out with Safari doesnât seem to close tabs. I think itâs kind of weird that Vivaldi does.
Edit2: Just had a really weird thing happen where opening Vivaldi side by side with the YouTube app then closing Vivaldi and then YouTube seems to have restored my previous session with all of my old tabs. Iâm starting to think that every time we âlose our tabsâ, weâre actually opening a new session and I managed to close enough sessions to reach my older session. No way to confirm this though without some way of managing windows or sessions.
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@Invalidar
I'm wondering if instead of losing your tabs you just opened a new empty window, leaving the window with your old session somewhere in the background?
Have you tapped on the 3 dots on top of the window in split view or slide over mode? You should see all your open windows near the bottom of the screen when you do. -
@jane-n Hi, sorry for the late reply. I suspected this too, but when I try looking for any other open windows, I only ever find one thatâs open. The one that miraculously recovered itself somehow.
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@chr0n0ss said in Lost a lot of tabs:
OP here. It happened again, that is to say my tabs disappeared on the mobile device. Checking on my Desktop Vivaldi, the lost tabs were added to the aforementioned âhiddenâ synced window. Strange.
Hello, it's me again. It turns out that the recently-released feature on Mobile, "Inactive Tabs", which automatically hides tabs that weren't used for a while, seems to be connected to this problem.
The "Inactive Tabs" option that has now appeared in Vivaldi in the tabs overview in fact allows me to view the aforementioned hidden window. As all the tabs that vanished for me were older ones I had not visited for some time, it seems that the functionality of automatically moving disused tabs to a hidden window was incorporated into Vivaldi some versions ago already. And now, with the official feature release, just the UI to interact with this hidden session was added.
