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Please stop using random folders for update cache
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Windows blocks update attempts of Vivaldi because I cannot whitelist the folder it generates for updating. It looks like random folder names.
Controlled Folder Access don't like this. It tells me it has blocked it, but at the same time Vivaldi at least sometimes seems to be updated. But is Vivaldi OK if Windows blocked an operation during the update? That is what I'm asking myself and I don't know.
App process blocked: vivaldi.exe
Protected folder: %localappdata%\Vivaldi\User Data\Default\Shared Dictionary\cache[long random name]Other browsers don't run into this problem because they don't generate folders with random names.
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@Viking872
Hi, Windows doesn't block Vivaldi updates, I have a stable default install and two standalone installs.
Two are set to auto update and one to manually update and they do update.
The \Default\Shared Dictionary\cache is a Vivaldi database folder and there are no random files.
To my knowledge the updates happen in \App Data\Local\Application\
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@Viking872 Could be some virus/ransomware/malware detection app which monitors folders and blocks.
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@mib2berlin said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
@Viking872
Hi, Windows doesn't block Vivaldi updates, I have a stable default install and two standalone installs.I don't think you use Controlled Folder Access the way I do. It is a powerful tool against ransomware.
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|@DoctorG said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
@Viking872 Could be some virus/ransomware/malware detection app which monitors folders and blocks.
Yes, it is and it is meant to block everything that is not whitelisted.
Every time a new program is installed it takes many minutes to allow access everywhere it needs it. But once it's done it's done. Except with Vivaldi, it's like it is a new program for every update and I don't spend 20 minutes investigating the problem again and again.
Vivaldi works, but is it OK in spite of something being blocked during the update process? No idea. -
@Viking872
Hm, you can report it to the bug tracker but maybe @yngve a Vivaldi team member can shade a light on this.Cheers, mib
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@Viking872 said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
Is the bug tracker some place here on the forums?
No, the tracker is not public.
But yo can report issue to Vivaldi bug tracker. Once that is done, share the bug number (beginning with VB-) you got by bug report mail. Thanks for helping us making Vivaldi better. -
@Viking872
Maybe not a bug but an issue in some circumstances, I would wait for the Vivaldi team before report it.
May it can take 1-2 days.Cheers, mib
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Using a random name for an extraction directory for updates and installation is actually a security mechanism, and is standard practice, as it prevents other applications (especially malware and drive-by downloads) from inserting bad executables (e.g. DLLs) in a location used by the updater and installer.
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@Silouan
Hi, I don't use Windows 10 anymore but I can remember this happen if you start Vivaldi for the first time and or reinstall of Vivaldi.
For example Vivaldi try to look for updates of extensions if you have enabled this (Default).
By the way, this have nothing to do with the OP post here.
Cheers, mib
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@Silouan That is just a regular Windows [Defender] Firewall which pop up when an app need to access the network. Being a browser is clearly need to be allowed.
Is not a message from Windows [Defender] Virus Protection.
If you may asking why other browsers doesn't usually show the screen is just because windows firewall whitelist them by default but doesn't tell you
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@Hadden89 said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
which pop up when an app need to access the network. Being a browser is clearly need to be allowed.
It seems that this is not quite true. If you click Cancel in this window, only incoming connections that were not initiated by the browser itself will be blocked. In this case, the web pages will open as usual.
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@sedative29rus said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
@Hadden89 said in Please stop using random folders for update cache:
which pop up when an app need to access the network. Being a browser is clearly need to be allowed.
It seems that this is not quite true. If you click Cancel in this window, only incoming connections that were not initiated by the browser itself will be blocked. In this case, the web pages will open as usual.
I have it happening in Windows 10 like this:
If you install Vivaldi in a new folder and run it, the firewall window does not appear. It appears, if you go to a web page like this: https://lexica.art, for example.
If you go to another address, like this forum, the window will not appear, i.e. some sites initiate connections themselves for some reason.
