Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers
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@Stardust, yes, normally it isn't recommended to use outdated apps, but some scripts, like also the YT Embed Redirect, have a fixed basic function which always work, they don't need frecuent updates to adapt their function because changing requests.
The YT embed redirect don't do other thing as changing the YT URL to embed, only avoid to have to do it by hand. There isn't any need to change it, even if it's an old script, it will work until something change the URL system.
Greasyfork community itself flags and eliminate outdated and dangerous scripts, it's as trustworth or even more than the Chrome Store.Well, in Vivaldi you have to desactivate the Google safe browsing, same as in Firefox, despite calling it Mozilla safe browsing, it's also from Google. Google meets, I don't use and Webstore if you don't want the automatic updates of the extension. More?
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
Greasyfork community itself flags and eliminate outdated and dangerous scripts, it's as trustworth or even more than the Chrome Store.
never heard of Greasyfork community
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@Stardust, https://greasyfork.org/en/discussions
In the Chrome Store there are more and more proprietary extension, without even with specifications of the homepage, most extension flagged to be eliminated are OpenSource.
IN Greasyfork and also OpenuserJS you can see and control the code of any script. The downloaded script.js is a plain text file which you can open, read and even modify to your like (if you know to do it). It'0s similar to the filterlist you add to the Vivaldi blocker, which also in plain text.
Not the cse in extensions from the store, less if they are proprietary and with fishy PP, controled by Google. uBO is FOSS, yes, but most are not. Even ABP isn't if you use it as alternative. Same with other security and privacy related extension. If they don't fit the Google requests (mot only respect Mv3) they will disappear from the store and with this also from the browser. Thanks, Ive seen it several times in the past.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
If they don't fit the Google requests (mot only respect Mv3) they will disappear from the store and with this also from the browser.
I don't care much about Chrome Store. As long as it would be possible to sideload uBO, I am good. I care mostly about uBO.
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@Stardust, it's understandable, it's a mess with this Google ideas. But there are always measures to show the middle finger out there. At least I don't feel the need to put 8 years of my Vivldi history in the trash because a f... extension.
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@Catweazle interesting, that uBlock Origin is actually older than Vivaldi.
uBlock Origin Initial release date: June 23, 2014
Vivaldi Initial release date: January 27, 2015
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@barbudo2005 I installed AdGuard, found good lifetime deal and I am comfortable with it. It is as powerful as uBlock as a content and ad blocker. But I don't use the extension, I installed in windows and works seamlessly. I recommend.
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@Stardust, yes, nothing against uBO, but it's not the center of the Mv3 problem, it's the web hegemony of Google, which can be changed with using another browser because of uBO.
Mv3 will be generally the new standart for ALL browsers easier or later, because the devs won't work on 2 different extension for Mv2 and Mv3 indefinitely. Mv2 will disappear, same as Mv1 with Chrome 18 in the past also for all others. Law of the market, made by a monopoly. Changing to Firefox/Mozilla only reforce the Google domain, becaus, despite the engine depends way more on Google than Vivaldi.
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
Mv3 will be generally the new standart for ALL browsers easier or later, because the devs won't work on 2 different extension for Mv2 and Mv3 indefinitely. Mv2 will disappear, same as Mv1 with Chrome 18 in the past also for all others.
We will see when/if it will disappear. Currently there is no plan to abandon MV2 by Mozilla and uBO MV2 is going to be maintained for Firefox.
@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
Changing to Firefox/Mozilla only reforce the Google domain, becaus, despite the engine depends way more on Google than Vivaldi.
Having non-chromium engine is a good thing. We don't know when and how Google will try to poison Firefox engine, but good thing there are few other engines in development at the moment.
uBO MV2 forever!
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@Stardust, there even Google devs working on FF. Enough poison? Well, FF (or better some forks) is still the best alternative respect other browsers, but it's risky to overestimate it.
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
there even Google devs working on FF. Enough poison?
Who exactly?
Well, FF (or better some forks) is still the best alternative respect other browsers, but it's risky to overestimate it.
Fight is never easy!
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@Stardust, https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-brings-microsoft-google-w3c-samsung-together-create-cross-browser-documentation-mdn/
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
@Stardust, https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-brings-microsoft-google-w3c-samsung-together-create-cross-browser-documentation-mdn/
that blog post is very old, from 2017, so probably those people (Board Members) are even no longer working there. Also it sounds a bit different than your phrase "there even Google devs working on FF"
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@Stardust, MDN is still active, also it's collaborators from all big companies. But if you trust these alliance of Mozilla, it's OK, but I understand with working for a better and free internet someting different.
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
@Stardust, MDN is still active, also it's collaborators from all big companies. But if you trust these alliance of Mozilla, it's OK, but I understand with working for a better and free internet someting different.
Mozilla lost my remaining trust after they quietly added PPI ads tracking in Firefox
I only trust uBO now!
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so when this will be applied on vivaldi?
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@shojivrstrinova8 We do not give a timeline for changes and new features.
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@DoctorG alright hope it wont affect vivaldi so much
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@shojivrstrinova8 IT will affect some older extensions, not Vivaldi itself.
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AdGuard Browser Extension 5.0.178
Release date: December 24, 2024Small but important hotfix.
Changelog:
Changed
Remade JS rules injections in MV3:
Use chrome.scripting API for injecting functions for script rules from the pre-built filters.
Use script tag injection only for script rules manually added by users — rules from User rules and Custom filters.Does anyone know the difference between the two methods?
