Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock
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Vivaldi seems to ignore the Scroll Lock key on the keyboard.
IBM PC User Manual. Page 5-20:
[The Scroll Lock] key is interpreted by appropriate application programs as indicating that the use of the cursor-control keys should cause windowing over the text rather than cursor movement. Pressing the Scroll Lock key a second time reverses the action. The keyboard routine simply records the current shift state of the Scroll Lock key. It is the responsibility of the system or application program to perform the function.
In other words: Even when a text field is selected in a webpage, I should still be able to use my keyboard arrow keys to scroll the page, pervaded I press the Scroll Lock key first. Yet as I said, Vivaldi seems to ignore Scroll Lock.
You guys try out Scroll Lock on your Vivaldi, see if it works properly for you. If it doesn't, I'll file a bug report.
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@Eggcorn Scoll-Lock does not have any effects in Windows 11 with other programs, other browsers or Vivaldi etc. on scrolling. With Scroll-Lock the ↓ or ↑ scrolls only 1 line!
Not a Vivaldi issue, but restriction in OS, as i can tell on my Windows PC.
Does it work for you on your PC in other programs? If yes, which program and in which browser?
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@DoctorG said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
Scoll-Lock does not have any effects in Windows 11
You sure about that? I'm running Windows 11, and Scroll Lock works in MS Excel.
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@Eggcorn only because excel coders decided to give Scroll lock a meaning, otherwise it's not pratically used anywhere else.
http://iancoog.altervista.org/
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@Eggcorn Depends which program dev has decided to use such "Scroll Lock".
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@Eggcorn It is NOT a bug in Vivaldi.
No browser supports Scroll Lock.Seems your opinion is: missing feature is a bug.
@Eggcorn said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
[The Scroll Lock] key is interpreted by appropriate application programs
Enhancement by me.
The IBM PC manual does not say: all programs have to implement and to interpret the key the same way.
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@Eggcorn If you think your mentioned Scroll-Lock feature to activate page scroll is useful, please read Request New Feature, open forum Feature Requests and post request.
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@iAN-CooG said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
only because excel coders decided to give Scroll lock a meaning
No, not because the Excel programmers "decided to give Scroll lock a meaning". Scroll Lock has a meaning, the key exists for a reason and has a function (as described by the manual I quoted). They simply programed Excel to properly execute that function.
otherwise it's not practically used anywhere else.
There's a saying:
If all your friends jumped off cliff, would you?
If all other programmers made their programs ignore the Enter key, the Scroll Lock key, or any other key with a standard function: Would you?
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@Eggcorn well, that book is not a law book and nobody is bound to do whatever it's written in there, sorry if I might have revealed you a truth too hard to swallow
If a program decides to move the cursor up one row instead of going to the next one, it's just how that program works because the coder wanted it to do so, and you can't do anything about it, or are you going now on every forum or mailing list of every program in existance that doesn't use scroll lock to tell them how to make their program?
Find something more constructive to do.http://iancoog.altervista.org/
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@Eggcorn Scroll Lock is dead. Personally I remap it as Play/Pause key for media.
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@iAN-CooG said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
well, that book is not a law book and nobody is bound to do whatever it's written in there
Correct, programs aren't bound to follow standards. But should they follow standards? Generally speaking, yes. That said: Programs should not blindly follow standards! Programmers who blindly follow standards, who do what the book says no matter what, make messes. But standards exist for a reason, and should not be disregarded without reason.
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@luetage said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
Scroll Lock is dead. Personally I remap it as Play/Pause key for media.
I did the opposite, I remapped Caps Lock to Scroll Lock. I wanted to disable Caps Lock anyway (I was pressing it by accident too often), I remapped it to Scroll Look for two reasons:
#1: My keyboard doesn't have a Scroll Lock key
#2: I'm starting to use MS Excel, and Scroll Lock looks like it will be quite useful there!
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@DoctorG said in Bug: Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock:
It is NOT a bug in Vivaldi.
No browser supports Scroll Lock.I'm surprised, I thought Vivaldi had a loose definition for what qualified as a bug. Once, a mod suggested I file a bug report over sponsored bookmarks in the Speed Diel.
If you think your mentioned Scroll-Lock feature to activate page scroll is useful, please read Request New Feature, open forum Feature Requests and post request.
A feature request requires more thought than a bug report. A bug report, I could simply report that Vivaldi ignores Scroll Lock. But a feature request, I'd have to think about how Vivaldi should handle Scroll Lock. You said yourself:
The IBM PC manual does not say: all programs have to implement and to interpret the key the same way.
The Scroll Lock key has potential in Vivaldi, but I wouldn't want my request to simply be "implement the standard Scroll Lock behavior". I think we can do better than that! For now, I've added a note about Scroll Lock to the Caret Browsing feature request.
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On Vivaldi browser using Scroll Lock as a modifier or toggle key for some actions would be nice. May be a good use case is Command chains.
But, wait, why adding this functionality to browser when you can add/configure it by a external program? On Windows AutoHotkey or Linux some key mapping programs exist to add macros to achieve this.
^^^^^^ That is the way most devs think.Have a Macros feature in Vivaldi which i can use to achieve some actions, Command Chains is not really sufficient in some situations.
^^^^^ As a user i would like to have this.But i have not the power to influence software design at Vivaldi.
Let us wait what comes next months or years in browsers.
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@DoctorG I think I fond a bug involving the Scroll Lock key after all. In the keyboard settings: I can set Scroll Lock (or a variation such as Alt+Scroll Lock) as a keyboard shortcut. However, trying to use that shortcut does nothing. Can you confirm?
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@Eggcorn Yes, you should report that issue.
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@DoctorG Bug reported.
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@DoctorG This is the second time you've confirmed a bug for me. Thank you.
