Debian 10 apt: No Vivaldi

jesus2099

Hello there,

I wanted to install Vivaldi on my Debian 10 machine, here.

I searched for it in apt but did not find it:

sudo apt update
apt list vivaldi
apt search vivaldi

Going to the Download page, I see we can directly download packages to install.
I am not familiar doing so.
And I would have to choose one of the 6 available archives.

Then totally by random, I found a doc to add Vivaldi repo to apt!

https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/manual-setup-vivaldi-linux-repositories/

I did not try yet.

If I do this way, it's little bit more easy than downloading an archive (knowing which one to choose) and find a command to install it, but still it would be difficult again to find out how to install Vivaldi, if I reinstall my Linux one day.

But why aren't Vivaldi releases part of the normal Debian repo?
It would allow installing it by much more people, who like me don't particularly want to spend to much time with complicated ways.

paul1149

There are only three Vivaldi choices for DEB. They vary per processor and bitage. For Intel and AMD processors, there is only one choice, 64 bit. The ARM processors are for small applications, such as raspberry pi.

All you have to do is download the .deb file and click on it. Installing it will register the Vivaldi repo on you system, for automatic updating. Done.

Probably Debian doesn't include Vivaldi because V is not open source. Some Linux distros, such as MX, which is Debian-based, include such programs in an auxiliary utility for easy installation.

jesus2099

Thanks for the info, I will surely test it, then.
For info I have already been using Vivaldi on my office laptop Windows for years.

guigirl

@jesus2099 said in Debian 10 apt: No Vivaldi:

why aren't Vivaldi releases part of the normal Debian repo?

I'll assume that question is genuine, not ironic. Debian has many fine qualities, but up-to-date software packages in its repos is not one of them [especially Debian Stable, which in absence of other info, i assume you're using]. In addition, given that Debian 11 was released ten months ago, i'd imagine that anyone still only using Debian 10 will likely fall even further behind in terms of obsolete apps.

As you've now already learned, if you manually download & install the V deb package, it should update your repo list accordingly, so that ongoing V updates occur. Personally, though, i would not feel confident that sooner or later you won't experience Vivaldi problems, if future chromium versions implicitly rely on particular architecture toolchain [or other basic package] versions potentially unavailable in your obsolete Debian version [ie, why don't you update your Debian to 11?].

jesus2099

Thank you for your insights.
Yes I'm in stable because usually I don't mind having old versions.

Why don't I upgrade to 11?
Because my PC is an old one and because my time is limited.
I only change stuff when it does not work any more.

Now that you say installing Vivaldi may not always work on Debian 10, I will just continue using what's available there in apt (Firefox ESR) and continue using Vivaldi on my office laptop.

It will save me time.

guigirl

@jesus2099 said in Debian 10 apt: No Vivaldi:

you say installing Vivaldi may not always work on Debian 10

Goodness, you've taken an interpretation diametrically opposite to what i intended! I am not Nostradamus, i cannot & am not telling you that your V will break in future, only that it might be more vulnerable than if it were running on an updated distro. In the meantime, nothing stops you enjoying V... if you wish.

jesus2099

No really, thank you both for your info.
Now I know why.
I will certainly use these info one day!

DoctorG

@jesus2099 said in Debian 10 apt: No Vivaldi:

But why aren't Vivaldi releases part of the normal Debian repo?

Because Vivaldi has its own repo and was not added to Debians repos because Debian maintainers adds only free software.

Download Vivaldi from vivaldi.com , install with dpkg and you will have the correct repo the next time, after the installation ended.