Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup
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Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup
https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/18/windows-11-pro-edition-will-require-microsoft-account-for-future-installs/
What I can say, go Linux
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@stardust Wrong sub-forum, we are already using GNU/Linux
here's where to post:
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@npro oh well, I was thinking ~5 min to where post this
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@stardust you're welcome
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@stardust said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup
https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/18/windows-11-pro-edition-will-require-microsoft-account-for-future-installs/
What I can say, go Linux
Why would you put this under the Linux section? What you should of done is print out the article and use it for toilet paper.
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@npro Please stay calm I pinged a mod to move this thread.
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@doctorg This thread has so much potential why would I not be calm , plus it's moved already, thx.
@Stardust now rename the thread properly & according to its sub-forum description to:
What to stay away from: Microsoft Windows
'cause I can already contribute to your post with other fresh news :
You need a surprisingly beefy PC to run Android apps on Windows 11
You wouldnβt think youβd need much to run Android apps on a computer, since theyβre designed to operate on low-power, battery-efficient phone hardware. But donβt tell that to Microsoft.
16GB is pretty beefy for a modern PC. While itβs not uncommon for gamers, media producers, or enthusiasts, most of the desktops and laptops you see on retail store shelves start at about half that, with budget models still rocking the (somewhat underpowered) 4GB of memory.
P.S. Speaking about your OP, I also like this guy of
ghacks.net
, in particular his sentence:How many more of these ridiculous decisions are we going to see from the company?
and his explanation for those who tl;dr :
It's quite simple really, you will only be able to set up Windows when you are connected to the internet. You won't be able to install the operating system with a local account like you used to.
This isn't a new change per se, because this requirement has already been enforced for Windows 11 Home edition users. The Pro edition users have entered the chat now. -
@locutusofborg said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
Why the hell would you put this under the Linux section?
I agree it was stupid, sorry about that.
@npro said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@Stardust now rename the thread properly & according to its sub-forum description
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Seems sensible as almost everything on Windows is tied to your account.
If people don't agree with this then why are they using Microsoft products -
@ultravio1et I have no need nor desire for Microsoft to know everything I do on my PC in order for me to create fonts, publish websites, edit images, and manage my emails.
I have to use Microsoft Windows because most developers wrote their applications to run only on Windows. I have no MS Office products. There is LibreOffice should I ever need to read Word documents.
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@ultravio1et , and why the hell W11, when they use a W10 which works fine?
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@ultravio1et said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
Seems sensible as almost everything on Windows is tied to your account.
If people don't agree with this then why are they using Microsoft productsThat seems not even remotely true, OH because it isn't and I think you know it. It's privacy invasion at it's worst. There is NOTHING in Windows itself that requires you to be constantly signed into it 24/7/365. The only reason Microsoft is doing this is so they can know EVERYTYHING you are doing on your Windows device.
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@locutusofborg , W10 can still be turned into a fast and reasonably private OS (though it's not quite that simple). In W11 they have learned from this and shielded all this telemetry and spyware crap that it includes.
For this reason, the W10 is going to be the last Windows that I am going to use, for sure, it still has a few years left to live, at least until 2025, although I rather think that the same thing is going to happen as with the 7, which I also had a life much longer than that of the date marked.
There are too many users who have a PC not compatible with W11, even with new equipment, that they are not going to buy a new PC to be able to use 11 -
@ultravio1et said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
why are they using Microsoft products
Devout masochism?
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When i began hearing of this in recent days, i just giggled... then giggled some more. Thoughts:
- ms are surely just using win11 as a total psychological experiment to see just how far they can go with all their Stockholm Syndromers [to infinity & beyond]
- bring in the tpm thing so that lots of perfectly useful HW will become wilfully redundant for those simply unable to escape from the cult [good job Gaia does not have any problem at all with uncontrolled e-waste & resource depletion]
- win10 was promised to be [paraphrasing] "the last windows you'll ever need to install" [this one was almost as "good" as "Don't be evil"], & yet, here we are
- win10 was such a good deal ... pay money for the privilege of untrammelled telemetry
- win11 apparently takes the piss-taking to Next Level, by this amazeballs account policy
Baa, baa, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Re TPM, Microsoft account & Microsoft's continuous process -happening day by day* for ages- "closing" the PC platform and securing it against your actions, not for you:
Windows 11 Must Be Stopped - A Veteran PC Repair Shop Owner's Dire Warning
*enjoy the next day already,
CES 2022: Chip to cloud security: Pluton-powered Windows 11 PCs are coming
"To deliver that for our customers, weβve made several important strides with the release of secured-core PCs, Windows 11 and the Microsoft Pluton security processor. The Microsoft Pluton is a security processor, pioneered in Xbox and Azure Sphere, designed to store sensitive data, like encryption keys, securely within the Pluton hardware, which is integrated into the die of a deviceβs CPU "
"The Pluton security processorβs firmware will be updateable through Windows Update along with standard industry controls. "
comments and stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/rwrz0x/microsoft_to_introduce_chip_to_cloud_security/
In conclusion, that's the price to pay for supporting a laughable & faulty OS that can never be secure on a software level, because it was not written to be like that from scratch, [single-user, single-tasking and not-network-aware, patched later with a clone of the VMS kernel (developed by Digital , MS-DOS being a not that legal clone of Digital Research's CP/M before that -Billy G must have had some form of fetish with companies starting with Digital I guess-)] named as NT, only to become an insecure technical mess of old APIs & new subsystems held together with bubblegum), contrary to UNIX and its descendants which were written for multi-tasking, multi-user and security from the beginning.
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@guigirl said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
Baa, baa, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
but, buuut Windows 11 was so good till they introduced Microsoft Account junk
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Slightly OT... I am not worried at all as M$oft keeps telling my computer is not compatible w/Win 11. Apparently my CPU is not supported.
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@greybeard said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
Apparently my CPU is not supported.
There is a workaround:
But Microsoft has published a bypass for those who really want to install Windows 11 on hardware that at least supports Secure Boot and some kind of TPM. It requires a trip to the Registry Editor, so tread lightly and make sure your important data is backed up.
Looking for Linux alternatives to evaluate.
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@stardust Hmm... Thanx. I does support all that. Just the CPU apparently. Not sure I'll go that way but its worth the read.