Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup
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@stardust , I have Secure Boot and TPM, but it's incompatible with AMD Radeon.
There's also a workarround, but no, thanks.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle Have you tried method with Registry Editor described in the article? I just wonder if it works with AMD cpu.
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@stardust , the strange thing is, that in the compatibilty list, there are Radeon CPU, but older than mine.
And yes, I know how to bypass this, but I don't see any reason to do this. I have now a good, private and fast OS which works at my like, that has cost me a lot of configurations and time to achieve it, without losing functionalities.
In my opinion it would be idiotic to change now to an OS that is basically still in beta and even more encrypted, without bringing anything really new, more than a poor imitation of a Mac Desktop. -
@catweazle said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@locutusofborg , W10 can still be turned into a fast and reasonably private OS (though it's not quite that simple). In W11 they have learned from this and shielded all this telemetry and spyware crap that it includes.
For this reason, the W10 is going to be the last Windows that I am going to use, for sure, it still has a few years left to live, at least until 2025, although I rather think that the same thing is going to happen as with the 7, which I also had a life much longer than that of the date marked.
There are too many users who have a PC not compatible with W11, even with new equipment, that they are not going to buy a new PC to be able to use 11You do know that the various Tweak tool makers will fix it so one can once again turn off the telemetry and make it where you can have a local account. You can bet the code for all is still there cause Microsour never removes old code. Tey just bury it. Happy to be rid of them and their OS for over 4 years now.
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@locutusofborg I have a local account in Win11. It happens I do have a Microsoft account, but it is not connected to this machine.
Likewise, my wife's Win11 machine is on a local account.
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@locutusofborg , I don't doubt it, but it doesn't invalidate that there is currently no reason to move to W11, having a W10 already tweaked and that works perfectly, especially considering that W11 is still far from being a mature OS, with obvious compatibility problems .
Apart from that the functional differences are quite irrelevant compared to the W10.
It has always been a Windows problem, that after launching a good and beloved version, it presents versions that are a flop, for example after 7, they released 8, which is currently no longer mentioned anywhere and people passing from 7 straight to 10, same thing before with this chestnut Vista, after XP, which was also pretty decent.
I think that the new versions of Windows are due more to economic reasons of M$, than to real tecnical needs, less those of the users.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle said:
I have Secure Boot and TPM, but it's incompatible with AMD Radeon.
There's also a workarround, but no, thanks.@stardust said:
Have you tried method with Registry Editor described in the article? I just wonder if it works with AMD cpu.
My Windows desktop is compatible with Windows 11 (but I haven't upgraded), and it is a full AMD system (Ryzen 5 2600X CPU).
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@komposten , I have AMD Radeon, see my signature, which isn't compatible for some obscure reasons, because older Radeons are in the list of compatibilities, but not the version I have., nor others newer versions.
My system has enough RAM, also secure boot and all other sys specs needed. Anyway, as I said, I don't think in update to 11., I only know this incopatibility by a notice of M$, which intended to update my system to 11, without asking me, in one of a regular update. Because of this, be aware in your updates if you use 10.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@ayespy said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@locutusofborg I have a local account in Win11. It happens I do have a Microsoft account, but it is not connected to this machine.
Likewise, my wife's Win11 machine is on a local account.
You have a local account for NOW, but Microsoft has made it very clear in upcoming updates and installs for 11 that will no long be the case.
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@catweazle said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@locutusofborg , I don't doubt it, but it doesn't invalidate that there is currently no reason to move to W11, having a W10 already tweaked and that works perfectly, especially considering that W11 is still far from being a mature OS, with obvious compatibility problems .
Apart from that the functional differences are quite irrelevant compared to the W10.
It has always been a Windows problem, that after launching a good and beloved version, it presents versions that are a flop, for example after 7, they released 8, which is currently no longer mentioned anywhere and people passing from 7 straight to 10, same thing before with this chestnut Vista, after XP, which was also pretty decent.
I think that the new versions of Windows are due more to economic reasons of M$, than to real tecnical needs, less those of the users.8 isn't mentioned any more cause 8.1 was released to fix the issues of 8. As for people jumping to 10 over 8 and 8.1 yes cause it was closer to 7 as far as usability. AS for Vista pre service pack 1 yes it was a steaming pile of
, but post sp1 it was the OS we were promised if one knew how to set it up properly. XP was just a out and out pile of , no redeeming qualities at all. The official popup and pop under queen of OS's. Windows for the average user has always been about pushing other goods and services that Microcrap has. They really do not care if they make a profit on the OS itself or not because of everything else the OS allows them to make money on. -
@locutusofborg , certainly Windows is and was for advanced users, the normal user is only a victim for M$.
Windows can be a good, stable, fast, secure and private OS, but only if you get rid of the tons of crap and telemetries "to improve the user experience" which come with Windows by default.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
which intended to update my system to 11, without asking me, in one of a regular update
That's curious. Windows gave me a pop-up that said something like "Your PC is ready for Windows 11! Do you want to update?". I chose no and since then it's been completely silent about it. If I go into Windows Update it just says "This PC can run Windows 11" in the sidebar, and that's it.
Of course, this doesn't mean that Microsoft won't suddenly change policy and force it upon everyone in the future. But at least the last couple of months it has behaved, and I expect it to continue that way for the forseeable future. Normal feature updates haven't been forced upon users, probably because they are big updates that can take a system out for several ours, and an Win 11 is an update on a presumably larger scale.
(An interesting side note: I have secure boot disabled since I dual boot Windows and Linux, but the Windows 11 update checker didn't seem to have any problems with that.)
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@komposten ; in my case Windows simply said something like "I couln't update to W11, please consult your sys specs" in one of the regullary updates, this means, it tried to update to 11, without asking. Maybe there are differences between Home and Pro version.
>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@locutusofborg I've just installed windows 11 and everything I've been using has been tied to my outlook account and Microsoft has fully told me about it at every step, if I didn't like this and wanted a more private OS I would re-install Linux, which I might do in the coming years if it takes my fancie again
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@Dedoimedo belatedly sees the light, & begins planning.
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@guigirl , very similar thoughts of mine.
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@catweazle said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@locutusofborg , certainly Windows is and was for advanced users, the normal user is only a victim for M$.
Windows can be a good, stable, fast, secure and private OS, but only if you get rid of the tons of crap and telemetries "to improve the user experience" which come with Windows by default.Exactly Windows biggest problem is the enduser not taking the time to really learn about the OS and how to tweak it for privacy and stability.
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@catweazle said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
@komposten ; in my case Windows simply said something like "I couln't update to W11, please consult your sys specs" in one of the regullary updates, this means, it tried to update to 11, without asking. Maybe there are differences between Home and Pro version.
Actually no it does not necessarily mean that it tried to update to 11. All it means is it installed a tool to check if you could upgrade and informed you that you couldn't.
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It just gets better & better.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-testing-ads-in-the-windows-11-file-explorer/And i bet this latest idiotic outrage still will not dissuade the majority of welded-on windozers.
Hilarious.
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@guigirl said in Windows 11 Pro will require a Microsoft Account and Internet connection during setup:
And i bet this latest idiotic outrage still will not dissuade the majority of welded-on windozers.
Even if it did get more people to want to switch from Windows, it's not like there is any good alternative. MacOS might be a decent OS, but it comes with the price of buying a premium system. And Linux, for all the progress it has made over the last decade, is still far from ready to be a mainstream OS.
