Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.

[TsunamiZ]

yay for 4.2!

chrome 94 is coming out september 21. so are we going to quickly get a 4.3 stable release near the end of september?

https://www.chromestatus.com/features/schedule

[SwiftyPop]

@tsunamiz: I heard news about Chrome 94 getting WebGPU for video decoding stuff or similar to that. Know anything about it? Seem like it improve hardware usage and more efficient in video decoding I believe.

[stardepp]

Webpannel scrolling is a nice new feature, but there is a small bug. The notification of the number of new emails is not displayed correctly:

[QuHno]

I hope the translator will learn how to translate from French to English.

[Catweazle]

@jon , thanks to a great team

[iAN CooG]

@tsunamiz said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:

quickly get a 4.3 stable release near the end of september?

what? not happening, it's next week, too early. 4.3 probably will come in at least one and half month from now.

[matsbtegner]

Same build as RC2?
Updated to build 2406.44 now.

[scottytrees]

It's not in the Arch repos just yet! But I'm sure before the end of the day it will be and I can give this new version a go! New features, and new updates look promising! I appreciate respecting the privacy of users. A lot of Linux users steer away from Vivaldi because it's not 100% open source, but those users are missing out on what I'd argue is one of the best browsers on the market today!

[Zeratelli]

It is still not possible to translate a page from English to another language if the Vivaldi interface language is English.
"Translate selection" does not remember the selected translation language and automatically translates to the interface language.

[npro]

@scottytrees you can:

a) get it from TU's pre-community place
b) build it yourself by editing the PKGBUILD
c) watch Jon's interview @ Destination Linux while you wait for it to show up

[RealMat0s]

It looks amazing. Vivaldi is proving that, after each update, he manages to improve himself.
My congratulations as always to the development team.

[Ruarí]

@matsbtegner: Not quite (4.2.2406.44). There is one extra fix

[Camera] Cannot access the camera when joining a video chat in a clean profile VB-82797

(not listed in the changelog above as the above are changes from stable to stable and this is a regression that only snapshot users would have seen),

[Chas4]

17th
Updated

[ivan.a.petkov]

The translation from English to Bulgarian doesn't work well. It works only once when shange the languages to Bulgarian. After that it doesn't translate at all:

[Ramouz]

In the changelog, I noticed something related to tab width, but unfortunately, you still didn't add the minimum tab width when the tab bar is overflowing with tabs. All we can see are tab icons, like all Chromium browsers (not good at all). I like how Firefox does it where there's a limit to the minimum tab width when there are too many tabs (unselected tabs), and we can still read the text to see what tab it is. Vivaldi should definitely have that and I saw forum posts about it here.

Nonetheless, you should stop with new features and start fixing 7 year old stability bugs, as I have been suggesting for the past 6 years :).

Also, what's going on with Vivaldi where it's laggy to scroll now? It was never that smooth but scrolling on all pages now is laggy. I forgot if it was like that though I do recall it laggy. I've been using other stable browsers (Edge, Firefox) and I just received a Vivaldi message in my taskbar, telling me there's an update. I checked Services and didn't find anything, nor in Task Manager, so I went in Vivaldi and disabled the Notify about updates. Strange since Vivaldi was not being used and this shouldn't have happened.

I don't think this browser will ever be stable. I see the changelogs full of new features and then full of fixes for those new features, and ignoring browser stability and so on. I understand bug fixes for new features, no worries there.

I quit using it after submitting 30+ reports in the past ~7 years and crashes and weird bugs kept happening, even up to this day in a new Vivaldi installation in a new Windows SSD, where I would use it and I couldn't exit it (had to use task manage to force close) after a few minutes of usage, where tabs in multiple Windows started getting mixed up on their own after 1 hour of usage only, and they would then disappear. I recall similar issues ~7 years ago on a different computer.

It's disappointing that such a great browser, full of features, is so buggy in the most basic of features, browser stability and reliability. I always update it and come back hoping that it would become a stable browser but it seems that that's at the bottom of your list of priorities. A change of management or priorities is in order, don't you think?

[Catweazle]

One thing I don't like at all in the blog post, adding a new search engine, Neeva.
When I enter the corresponding page I see that it is not yet functional and only offers the possibility of signing up with the email and name, to be informed when it is ready in my country.
Ok, it is an acceptable thing, why because of what it says that it respects privacy and is the first that does not use ads, apart from not specifying much else.
Well, I think there is nothing against signing up.
After doing so, I am congratulated for being on the waiting list and that I am informed by email of its launch and that I CAN USE IT FOR THE FIRST MONTHS FREE OF CHARGE.
I have nothing against paid products, but these, if they are trustworthy, are put into the price list and not after signing up in good faith, apart from that it would be the last straw that on top of being paid they had ads.
I consider this a not very serious practice and with this of course I have no confidence in this search engine and its supposed privacy, which anyway isn't very strong.

Automatic Data Collection. We may collect certain information automatically when you use the Services. This information may include your Internet protocol (IP) address, location information, user settings, cookie identifiers, browser type and version, operating system or device, pages that you visit before using the Services. Information we collect may be associated with your accounts and the devices you use to access your accounts.

Bad choice from Vivaldi, i think

[tatsuki]

@catweazle , thank you for sharing your thoughts on Neeva.
It's important for us to get a good understanding of how ours feel about partners we work with.

To make sure I get your point fully, can you elaborate a bit more what you meant by the following sentence? Neeva can be used for free for few months before you decide to pay for subscription and there is no ads shown on the search result.

I have nothing against paid products, but these, if they are trustworthy, are put into the price list and not after signing up in good faith, apart from that it would be the last straw that on top of being paid they had ads.

Thanks!

[Eggcorn]

@tatsuki said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:

It's important for us to get a good understanding of how ours feel about partners we work with.

If you want my feelings: Include almost any search-engine that's willing to pay the fee. It's not like you're forcing me to use them, I can use whatever search-engine I want.

Edit: That said, Neeva is a very questionable choice. Because it won't just show you the search-results, you have to jump through hoops (signing up). That does lower the quality of the Vivaldi search-box. I think Neeva would be more appropriate as a sponsored bookmark.

Edit 2: Neeva (as of June 2022) no longer requires you to jump through those hoops, it's no longer a questionable choice.

[Eggcorn]

@catweazle said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:

they had ads.

You mean the "Expert Recommended" section? If the Neeva help files are to be believed, those are not ads.

[Catweazle]

@tatsuki , naturally I can use it for 3 months for free, before deciding, but first this of "private search engine" has nothing, since it clearly states that it register my data and my activity using this search engine, as seen in the quote that I put that I got from Neeva's PP .
Besides, it is a very bad practice to notify the user of the monthly costs only after registering and not on the presentation page, where in each serious service a link always appears above, where it says 'Pricing', which in Neeva is not the case, nor apears in other site in this page..
Trust, none and of course I am not going to use it, not even the first three months.
Because calling itself a private search engine is already a hoax, with it's PP i can use directly Google, which is free and not only the first three month.