(History of) Vivaldi Feature Requests
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I had an idea, I'm sure others have had it before me but I'm not about to look through all these pages. :whistle:
What about the ability to set up specific websites to use specific spell-checking languages? For example I am Swedish and use sites and forums where I write in English and others where I write in Swedish, it would be nice to set up the Swedish sites to always default to Swedish language for spell-checking and set up the English sites to always default to English spell-checking.
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I would like to agree with this, applying language settings per page or site is a good idea. By extension, the choice of input method could also be linked to the site/page.
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I would like to request some features which relate to the email part of the application.
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- As I have mentioned before, it would be nice to have an alternative to Outlook to connect to Exchange.
- There should be an option to disable email accounts.
- The action of deleting an account should offer the option to manage the process to allow valuable data to be backed up.
- When you have an attachment in a email either received or sent, this attachment should be able to be used to spawn a new separate email with that attachment.
- Attachments which are already associated with an email should be able to be attached in turn to an email that is currently being written.
- This should go without saying but 'edit as new'.
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On an entirely different note, a built-in web-server as functional as possible only accessible to local-host and the browser itself. Such that as the file is edited then live and in real time the page being displayed is updated. No more saving a file and re-loading.
Just when you thought this couldn't get any more complicated and pie in the sky… An Sqlite engine to build a fake back end for a web-page. This could take a schema as an argument with structured data like a csv for fake records. Or based upon the queries being run build a schema based of the fields in the queries. This would work as an optional tool with some work to set up but with minimal overheads in terms of building and connecting to a real DB, Security wouldn't be an issue as there's no external access.
Please give feedback responsibly.
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A lot of that strikes me as some pretty major programming, which would push its eventual introduction well into the future. IMHO mail should not be delayed for the purpose of giving it special properties right out of the box.
That said, I have seen two email clients (and only two) that allow one to detach, reassign, delete attachments. These were decades in development, and neither is currently widely popular. Not saying it can't be done, but am saying this is not something people expect from email as a rule - so if it takes a long time to write it, few or none will miss it, and if it gets finished and introduced, few or none will appreciate it.
Seems like the ability to hobnob with Exchange ought to be doable, given time.
Not clear what you mean "disable" email accounts. If you mean turn off the mail function, then if it's like olde Opera, it won't be there unless you turn it on. If you mean keep an email account from receiving or sending mail, that's a given. If you mean delete accounts, again, a given.
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Two additional thoughts to add to the above.
Regex/Text search with in a page or domain or window or stack of tabs. Count the result set.
With the web-development feature, the ability to create a sand-boxed editable clone of a web-page. This would have to be considered in the context of security first though. I haven't thought all the pros and cons through but this could be useful in some contexts and dangerous in others.
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Hi Ayespy,
I wouldn't suggest that these are necessarily features for out of the box though that would be nice
Where you say 'detach', I think of 'Save as' leaving the original unchanged.
Where you say 'delete' , I imagine you mean remove from a stored received email. I don't see the point to this either.
As for re-assign (1), what I'm thinking of is akin to forwarding an email only you don't keep the subject or other meta-data so it's like a brand new email except with an attachment.
As for re-assign (2), this is like the first version only you're sending the attachment to an email you've already started writing.In respect to disabling email accounts and also deleting. In Opera 12, I can't see an option to turn off an email account. There are configuration options but not the ability to de-activate it.
As for deleting accounts goes, I had a bad experience in Opera a few years ago when I deleted an account. I expected the credentials to go but not the Sent and Received emails. The email server I was using had closed but the account kept trying to connect so removed it. Admittedly, my previous expectation seems counter intuitive now but my desire to remove a redundant or unused server without loosing data has not changed. I hope this helps you see where I'm coming from.
As for Exchange and Outlook. I appreciate you're just think about this right now as a maybe in the future, if you get the time sort of feature but I would add to my wish list the ability to use Distribution Lists and the Calendar too.
Thank you for taking the time to read my comments that is very much appreciated.
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Please don't mistake that I work for Vivaldi. I'm a user just like you. (I think I've got a little credibility around here, and sometimes developers give a bit of weight to my opinions, but surely that's as far as it goes.)
Your explanations of what you mean re: attachments make it sound as though the coding would not be prohibitively hard.
In Opera 12, one can "disable" an account without losing any of its data by editing the "servers" and "incoming" screens under account "properties," and I have done this numerous times. My current version of Opera 12 has eight email accounts. Three of them work. The mail client ignores the other five as to send and receive, but lets me look at what's there. I have the emails (tens of thousands of them) from all eight of them. I have an older version of Opera with 11 accounts, 3 working, and another still with 13 accounts, all of which try to retrieve mail (some with utter futility) because I haven't gone in and edited properties to stop that. SOME email clients have adopted a structure which allows you to move all of the emails from an account you want to abandon, to another account you are keeping. SO FAR, this requires a structure which creates folders and emails in folders by keeping or moving actual physical data (sometimes duplicates thereof), rather than the data model Opera employed, which was ONE copy of the data and, using database query/search technology, to created the ability to categorize and view the data under different labels and from different directions. Unfortunately this would mean that if you deleted the account the original data was in, you would lose it everywhere. It would be interesting to see how one might delete an account, and yet keep the mails - without engaging in the sin of data multiplication.
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Another thing that would be useful: if "Bookmark All Open Pages" worked like Firefox's "Bookmark All Tabs" and prompted you for a folder name to put them all in. Right now if I want to back up a few dozen tabs they fill up my bookmarks toolbar.
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As to the ability to wrap tab bar to multiple lines, uh, OK. I guess some people like that, too.
I also like the wrappable tab bar; sometimes I use that, sometimes I prefer side tabs, but Chrome's "shrink the tabs very thin and have them start scrolling" is unusable.
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In Opera 12, one can "disable" an account without losing any of its data by editing the "servers" and "incoming" screens under account "properties"
Yeah, this is really trivial in Opera. I have 11 accounts of which only 6 are still active. The old ones, you just uncheck "check every X minutes" and "include when checking manually" and Opera will never attempt to fetch mail from them again.
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Hi Ayespy, mossman,
Thank you both. That does make a lot of sense. Still a nice little on/off button would be nice for the hard of thinking.
In my opinion the Database model is superior to the file-system model of email storage and is one of the main attractions to Opera for me at the moment.
My approach to keeping the data when you delete an account via the Database model, would be to say that the accounts belong to connections (user,password,server,method etc.) and are only loosely associated with the data (as a searchable value). The data belongs to your contacts and then you allow orphan records for when all contacts (including the receiving account) are removed.
Then the issue of removing data is separated from the accounts. This would mean though that you would need a separate mechanism to remove data. Data removal would only be associated with account removal in instances like an Admin removing access to confidential data.
Ayespy> Apologies for mistaking you for a Vivaldi Dev. Still without people like you reading these posts and giving feedback this would be a much poorer place. You've helped me make my request clearer and easier to understand. Although I don't know if other readers will like it more once they understand what I'm after.
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first let me say that i was a huge fan of the original Opera, before all the recent changes, but have been forced recently to embrace a combination of different browsers, loaded with extensions, to achieve the same thing.
I like the attitude of the vivaldi devs, to reduce the user's reliance on third party extensions by including all the essential features in the browser itself.
However, since many of these extensions are specialised into doing just one task really well, i feel there may be some features and use cases that vivaldi could include, so that users like myself wouldn't miss these specialised extensions so much.
For starters, Evernote has become really useful for me in the absence of operas notes feature. I still like the idea of having this feature in my browser, but having used evernote, now i would miss the ability to organise notes by using tags. this would be nice to see in vivaldi, and though a fast, full text search kinda covers some aspects of the same oragnisation capability, there are still advantages to using tags (as well as folders) for organising notes.
I wonder if vivaldi could go one further and allow notes to be associated with contacts and emails, as well as urls.If anyone has ever used the ZenMate extrension , in opera or chrome, then some secure VPN functionality like this would be nice to have built into the browser, or some kind of standardised way of using ones own VPN along with the ability to swtich this on/off on a per site basis.
Mail
opera's M2 was by far my favourite email client but it didn't seem to get enough attention during its last days… I am very excited to start testing out M3, but have some thoughts about it,
firstly, some stuff that was never quite right with M2..
Import and export, never managed to get the labels and rules right, when eventually i was forced to ditch opera12 and move over to the standalone mail client, I had to manually recreate all my filters, labels, and custom searches..
Mail Composer:
When the browser is not running and the mail client is set in the OS to be default handler for new emails, opera never quite managed to open on a compose message tab… even experiment with command-line switches couldn't make it behave correctly (windows or linux). I would like to see this behaviour improved for M3. Can I venture to suggest that if the browser is not already open, and a new compose message window is requested by the OS, this need not spawn the full browser session with all it's tabs, just the single window composer, with access to the contact list, and mail system would be much faster to load and streamline the user experience somewhat.I also like to see the ability to delete an attachment from a stored email. this has been mentioned already in this thread and dismissed as unnecessary, however i have one use case that requires iy, this is because i like to keep my mail db small, without deleting the emails...
generally i will save important attachments elsewhere, and they do not need to be kept in the maildb aswell, but often the associated email content is worth keeping...Some personal requests.
UI
ability to retain tab colouring (slightly desuaturated) on inactive tabs (useful for quick visual id when lots of tabs)ability to colour the window borders as per active tab, makes it much pretty when tabs left, url bottom, panel right…
Mail,
What does everyone think of this: gmail has introduced some pretty interesting ways to sort and prioritise mail by importance and content, how about for vivaldi users, some centralised cloud list of rules that the client uses to associate common types of notifications and updates emails from popular websites, this could be community maintained, which facilitates the user to then just select which folders they want that type of email to appear in. for example, several different types of email from facebook, half a dozen different standard types of email from linked in, notification emails from various recruitment,dating, sites, etc…. database can be updated as these sites update or change their methods, but all users email is primed for sorting by the client without manually determining how the rules for each of these types of mail, so we get google-like mail filtering on our desktop mail client..... (obviously vivaldi's implementation would be in keeping with its current standards and far more customisable and elegant )
Much of this centralised list work might already be done if the devs plan to develop their own anti-phishing filters or whitelist system for M3... And this type of tech could be pushed out as an open standard......And a finally few endorsements of other requests i've read so far….
+1 open new tab within current stack.
+1 panel button moves to right when panel does.
+1 private tabs / windows with lots of settings (secure VPN, proxies etc)
+1 History Panel, and a history page with details, perhaps this view could also show when notes were copied from pages
+1 per-site language settings, among others+1 Drag tabs between windows: if possible this should be achievable between different instances of the program, say snapshot build, and TP build. or provide functionality like opera's old rightclick>open page in other browser…
one more thing.... any plans to re-introduce user-js?
I's sure there are a few things i've forgotten, but i will add more as i think of them...
Thanks for the great work so far, I am very excited to see the evolution of my new favorite browser
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Oh, and +1 to perspectives, and anything else that decentralises trust authorities on the web, anonymous browsing, per-site ad and script(trackingcode) blocking and anything that protects the users privacy and rights online….
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You need to implement the same thing chrome has, drag tabs to other desktop windows, it is really frustrating that this not work.
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I'm sure whatever I want is already requested by someone else. I want mostly UI and customizability improvements, which I'm sure will be done, given Vivaldis target audience.
What's already there is impressive for a develper build; I've yet to see any other browser prioritizing stuff like traditional menus and vertical tabs.
Still, here's some of the stuff I want to see that aren't already there.
Tabs and navigation:
- The ability to not always show previews when using vertical tabs. Show preview only if I hover my mouse cursor over it.
- Right-click and scroll to move through tabs.
- Double-click and right-click on the empty area of the tab bar to open new tab / show context menu / do whatever the user says.
Customization:
- It's hard to put it in words, but here's how I customize my copy of Opera 12: ([attachment=1284]CustomUI.png[/attachment]) Basically, I want to see the address bar (with navigation buttons) contained "inside" the tab - make it part of the specific page, not the browser itself.
- I don't know how will you guys handle UI customization, but I hope that when skinning becomes available, it'll be easier to make skins than it was in Opera. Trying to make an Opera 9 skin work in Opera 12 wasn't an easy task for me.
Other stuff:
- For some reason, I can't use my NPAPI Flash Player, yet it correctly identifies its version. I suppose it works with PPAPI only? In that case, I think Vivaldi should explicitly mention that in the plugin page.
- Image properties (when right-clicking on images). I would appreciate it if it shows metadata beyond general stuff (like file type and size) too.
Keep on with the awesomeness. For a browser that went public not long ago, it sure does a lot. I'm already loving its tab stack/tile function and window border that changes color constantly, and given how new it is, I'm surprised at how good Vivaldi looks overall.
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If you un-check "show tab thumbnails" you will still get tab previews on hover.
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Oh. I was running 1.0.162 when I posted that. Neat!
After playing with the browser a bit, I have one new wish:
- In the Windows version when using native windows, make the window behave like most non-dialog box windows: click the top-left corner to show context menu, double-click to close.
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You could (and should) add the option to display the bookmarks bar on the same row as the address bar.
I always thought that the bookmark bar takes up a lot of space and an address bar so long doesn't have any usefulness. I think it's better if both of them are sharing the same row.
I attached a screenshot so you could see exactly what I'm talking about.Hope you guys, will implement this and keep up the great work!
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I want to see these, as they are very annoying to me:
- The location bar should only be shown when I mouse over the tabs (at least as an option)
- The close buttons of tabs should appear over the favicons on hover (when on a system which close buttons are on the left)
- Ability to turn off password management/saving as I use a password manager application
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Hello, i don't know if these have been requested already but i can't really read 43 pages of content so here's what i can ask :
- The search bar have to be removable, we can already search with the address bar, there's no point to have it.Sorry, my bad.- I need an option to "unstick" a tab, like in firefox, chrome, etc, for example, if i click on a tab and i drag it out of the vivaldi window, it create a new window (i have 3 screens, this is indispensable)
- The possibility of moving/adding (for addons p.ex)/removing some buttons, for example to put the home button at the right of the address bar, etc.
- Open a new tab by middle click on previous/next button
- Duplicate tab by ctrl + dragging a tab (to create a new windows with the requested feature above or a new tab by dragging it on the tab bar)
