Browsers made in the EU

[Catweazle]

With no results in my search due to the great pre-dominance of the US in the browser market and little or no privacy regulations, I have a simple question.
Apart from Vivaldi and UR, is there any other browser made in the EU?

[stardepp]

@catweazle The T-Online browser from the German Telekom, is based on Firefox.

https://www.t-online.de/computer/browser/

[stardepp]

@Catweazle The Cliqz browser from Germany, s based on Firefox.

https://cliqz.com/desktop

[Catweazle]

@stardepp , nice, but...

"Dear Cliqz friends,

on April 29, 2020 we’ve announced with a heavy heart the Cliqz story is over. It is a terrible decision, but it is the only one possible. There is no future for Cliqz as it is today."
https://cliqz.com/en/magazine/farewell-from-cliqz

[stardepp]

@catweazle Yes, that's right the Cliqz search no longer exists, but the Cliqz Brower still does.

[Catweazle]

@stardepp , maybe until it's outdated, the download page is broken and blocked by Vivaldi.

[luetage]

@catweazle Otter browser probably.

[Catweazle]

@luetage , yes, Michał Dutkiewicz is a Polish developer. Sad for the EU that there is so little to choose from, even Colombia has its own browser, from Bogota, Midori

[A Former User]

What about Links?

[Eggcorn]

@catweazle What are you asking about the EU specifically, rather then Europe in general?

[Catweazle]

@eggcorn , first of all, it is due to the privacy regulations of the EU, not necessarily the same in geographic Europe, although I imagine it is still better than the regulations in this regard in the US or China (Opera)
Also because I think that the EU has to become independent from the big American multinationals, technology has it*, but these few exceptions in this area do not seem to be much interest on the part of legislators. It is sad that in European technological or computer publications they promote products from the USA, instead of their own products.

*To remember, that the parent of Blink is KDE, now international community, founded by a German developer, Matthias Ettrich.

@potmeklecbohdan, maybe, but I don't know if a pure textbrowser is very usefull

[stardepp]

@catweazle said in Browsers made in the EU:

@stardepp , maybe until it's outdated, the download page is broken and blocked by Vivaldi.

I was able to download the Cliqz browser (at Chip.de) and install it successfully...but it is only a Firefox clone.

[Catweazle]

@stardepp , yes, and discontinued since last year, no updates since them, it means a dying project.
Otter is nice, but very inmature and WebKit engine? ...not very future friendly. Include in the Otter Forum are posts from users which want to switch to Vivaldi, as a browser which is what Otter prentend to be one day (what I doubt with this engine)
Ur Browser, very nice and a good browser from a French company, but is Closed Source and proprietary (Chromium based), without support Forum. Own VPN (paid)

[stardepp]

There is simply no better browser than Vivaldi, whether in Europe or the rest of the world, and that's a good thing.

[dbouley]

@catweazle How about SeaMonkey?

[Eggcorn]

@catweazle said in Browsers made in the EU:

[F]irst of all, it is due to the privacy regulations of the EU

Ah.

Also because I think that the EU has to become independent from the big American multinationals

I have the same question there: Why the EU specifically, and not Europe in general?

[Catweazle]

@dbouley , yes, it's a german non-profit org.

@Eggcorn , can also be a project from other country of Europe, but i prefer the UE for three reasons
I live there
The privacy law
and I think that the Internet depends too much on US monopolies with tendence to abuse their position, extending their control over the user include in OpenSource projects with tracking APIs (GitHub is Microsoft, Chromium AND Mozilla is Google).

[dbouley]

@catweazle There's also PaleMoon, but I can't determine where they're based. Although, they distribute from servers in the US, so I guess that's a good indication.

[Catweazle]

@dbouley , yes, it's from Moonchild Production , founded in Netherland. The site is clean, apart from 1 cookie from PayPal, due the donation button, I think. Not like Mozilla.org with a tracker from Alphabet Inc (Google)

[dbouley]

@catweazle Well, there you go... there's at least a few alternative EU-based web browsers to choose from out there.