I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox 😇

Streptococcus

@guigirl said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

@Stardust said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

Still waiting for this feature in Vivaldi

What? Not sure if you're being ironic or serious. We've been able to drag it there for a long time -- look again at my 2nd pic above.

What is wrong with the page zoom in the status bar? I like a long address bar, so do not want too much stuff in the navigation toolbar to shorten it.

Stardust

@streptococcus said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

What is wrong with the page zoom in the status bar?

Well...

Nothing wrong if you want to use the status bar
The size of the zoom buttons is too small imo
If you prefer to disable the status bar, there is no way to check the current zoom level and adjust it, that's why we need Firefox-style Zoom Buttons on the Address Bar

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Pros:

compact view (because reset button integrated to the zoom field - see gif)
can be enabled when status bar is disabled
bigger buttons, easy to click

I like a long address bar, so do not want too much stuff in the navigation toolbar to shorten it.

I have plenty of free space on the address bar and I also use the search bar.

guigirl

This seems to be quite strange a combination. Someone knowledgeable enough at least to know that about:config is actually a thing, yet apparently at the same time has never ever heard of another thing called... search engines.

Stardust

@guigirl said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

to know that about:config

Everyone knows about about:config

guigirl

@stardust Do you mean that nobody does not know?

Stardust

@guigirl not sure, but first thing you do after Firefox installation is to go to about:config to disable browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab

guigirl

@stardust I do not for a moment accept your premise in your preceding post, ofc, but just to humour you... how do you reconcile the conflicting probabilities of

@stardust said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

Everyone knows about about:config

vs

@guigirl said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

yet apparently at the same time has never ever heard of another thing called... search engines.

There, I've run rings around you logically.
Oh, intercourse the penguin.
Burma!

Stardust

@guigirl said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

how do you reconcile the conflicting probabilities of

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very high!

BTW sometimes I search directly on reddit too

guigirl

@stardust said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

sometimes I search directly on reddit too

guigirl

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/05/improved-process-isolation-in-firefox-100/

Most of it just drivels on about windoze, yawn, but at the end it does actually have some interesting info for better platforms.

If you’re a Mac user, you might wonder if there’s anything similar to Win32k Lockdown that can be done for macOS. You’d be right, and I have good news for you: we already quietly shipped the changes that block access to the WindowServer in Firefox 95, improving security and speeding process startup by about 30-70%. This too became possible because of the Remote WebGL and Non-Native Theming work described above.

For Linux users, we removed the connection from content processes to the X11 Server, which stops attackers from exploiting the unsecured X11 protocol. Although Linux distributions have been moving towards the more secure Wayland protocol as the default, we still see a lot of users that are using X11 or XWayland configurations, so this is definitely a nice-to-have, which shipped in Firefox 99.

guigirl

Mozilla Says How Firefox Extensions Will Keep Up With Chrome

Firefox will soon support all the new features and APIs introduced in Manifest V3, to maintain parity with Chrome, but Mozilla is keeping some of the functionality around that Google kicked to the curb. Firefox extensions will still be able to use the old webRequest API, so you don’t have to worry about content-blocking tools becoming broken. However, Manifest V3 extensions on Firefox will still have the same permissions model as new Chrome extensions, so you’ll still be easily able to allow and deny permission to certain sites.

Mozilla is aiming for Manifest V3 support to be completed by the end of 2022, which should keep Firefox’s extension ecosystem alive and well

Ie, if the above is what truly transpires, uBO will remain viable in FF long into the future, unlike in chrom[ium] browsers. I wonder if the V Devs can finagle some kind of functionally equivalent outcome?

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TheBestPessimist

@guigirl I would like it if vivaldi came with gorhil's ublock baked in.
It's much nicer and easier to work with than Vivaldi's own addblocker.
The feature set is also better.

Catweazle

@TheBestPessimist , you can add it's filters without a problem

Stardust

@TheBestPessimist said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

It's much nicer and easier to work with than Vivaldi's own addblocker.
The feature set is also better.

Well uBO is the king of all addblockers. Nothing comes even close.

Stardust

@TheBestPessimist said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

I would like it if vivaldi came with gorhil's ublock baked in.

not sure about desktop, but android version could support uBO installation as highly recommended addon from the settings.

Catweazle

@Stardust , although in android in any case it is advisable to install apps, such as Blokada, which blocks ads and trackers both online and locally in installed apps, so that they stop bothering with ads.
(Download it from F-Droid or from the official page, since in the Play Store there is only the decaffeinated light version., Google hate good adblockers)

Stardust

@Catweazle said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

which blocks ads and trackers both online and locally in installed apps, so that they stop bothering with ads.

The question is why are you using those apps with ads and trackers?

TheBestPessimist

@Catweazle said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

@TheBestPessimist , you can add it's filters without a problem

it's not just about the filters, it's about the UI, it's about the "element picker mode" and the easy way to disable bad CSS, about the CNAME resolution and filtering.

It's about how easy it is to work with existing filters, how they give you multiple lists you can chose from.

@Stardust said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

Well uBO is the king of all addblockers. Nothing comes even close.

can't argue with that

You can say it's also about the time investment from Vivaldi: as a developer, i believe it's sometimes easier to take a product and build around it. In the case of Vivaldi and uBlock Origin, as ublock already does everything and works as expected with Vivaldi right now, maybe there is a way to incorporate it with less work than would be needed to improve the current add-blocker.

barbudo2005

@TheBestPessimist said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

@guigirl I would like it if vivaldi came with gorhil's ublock baked in.

Please explain to me what the difference would be if uBO was "baked in".

Or rather that it would improve?

npro

@TheBestPessimist said in I cheat on Vivaldi with Firefox :

i believe it's sometimes easier to take a product and build around it. In the case of Vivaldi and uBlock Origin, as ublock already does everything and works as expected with Vivaldi right now, maybe there is a way to incorporate it with less work than would be needed to improve the current add-blocker.

If I remember correctly, it's been mentioned in posts or in blog articles that Vivaldi's native adblocker is written in C or C++ , while as its known all extensions are written in JS, meaning once Manifest V3 officially kicks in, uBO and other "on top" extensions which depend on Google's APIs will become useless. So it's better Vivaldi actively further develops its own Adblock engine which can more directly talk to various APIs or replace them, than base on gorhill's -soon to be crippled- JS code. Ofc we haven't seen V's definitive plans regarding Manifest V3, as there is still time, but they told they were keeping an eye on it and the native (precompiled) adblocking engine was the first step against it.