YouTube RSS support – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2131.8

[k3dAR]

what is please planed behaviour of tab switching with "Two-level Tab Stacks"?

will be nice if be posible keyboard switch between main tab without swith in second-level tabs(switch only on selected tab in stack), but ofcourse also with hotkey to switch only in actual second-level tabs

[varabi]

The mail client is great! Only one thing stops me from using it every day. I have to use HTML signature with company logo and some colors. Currently I can only define the signature as plain text.

[Ruarí]

@npro Interesting, thanks!

[Ruarí]

@npro I just replied to you from your bug report. FWIW, only wget appears to require that. Other software, such as curl was already working without any such changes, confirmed by experiments I did with @ouzowtf yesterday. Also every report of this we have had has been from users of Arch (or close derivatives) using wget. No other distros or other software involved AFAICT.

P.S. You may also note that Vivaldi (and other browsers) connect to our websites without complaining about certificates. I am therefore increasingly starting to suspect this is an Arch issue with the wget package (or some other default configuration in Arch that is more problematic for wget), rather than an issue our side with misconfiguration of our server setup. I could be wrong, as I lack expertise in this area but that is my current "gut feeling".

[Ruarí]

@npro On last further thing worth noting is that @guigirl only experienced this on Arch systems that she recently updated. Those that she had not updated were working using wget against our servers without issue. So there is also some recent change on the Arch side that is causing this to show up with wget. To state that again more clearly, it was not happening on Arch before either (just like every other distro). Again, this is another hint that it might actually just be a recent Arch issue/regression.

[Ruarí]

@ouzowtf If you want to continue using the script, this is an interesting comment.

Alternatively, if you would prefer not make the same change as @npro for any reason, a small tweak of the install script to use curl instead of wget would work. If you want help with that, just ask.

[ouzowtf]

@Ruarí Being novice I'm not really sure what this change of @npro really does, what it affects and influences. I want to learn more about using and understanding Linux in general, but I'm not sure I find the time to do so for my intended extend
So my first priority will be herecura.
Normally I would think that the script should be fixable by "only" changing the wget part with it's parameters to the curl equivalent. To look at that is written now on my to do list in my head :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:

[Ruarí]

@ouzowtf The script already has curl support built in. It just looks for wget first and uses that if it is found. curl is only used if wget is not found. All you need to do to get it to use curl is to disable the wget part and that can be done with a single sed one-liner, e.g.

sed -i 's/available wget/false/' [path to script]/install-vivaldi.sh

(where "[path to script]" is replaced with the actual path)

Now the script will always use curl and should work just fine, even on Arch.

P.S. The script will realise it is modified and fetch a vanilla version for you and save it in your download directory as install-vivaldi-snapshot_new.sh or install-vivaldi-snapshot_new-[date].sh, so it will be easy to revert the change.

[Ruarí]

@guigirl said in YouTube RSS support – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2131.8:

Thus, i remain unsure why pre-upgrades your script worked for me but post-update not, yet the package you identified at your end as being suspect, has NOT recently changed here. Puzzling.

One thing to keep in mind on this specific point is that whilst wget might not have upgraded, it depends on other packages, which in turn might depend on other packages. Any change in one of the files in the wget dependency chain could change wget behaviour, as could changes in how certificates are setup and stored (arguably just another form of dependency). Just because the issue displays with wget, that doesn't mean it is actually wget directly.

[Ruarí]

@guigirl If you did want to alter a copy of the script on any of your systems, I explained to @ouzowtf how to do so in this post (quoted below)

The script already has curl support built in. It just looks for wget first and uses that if it is found. curl is only used if wget is not found. All you need to do to get it to use curl is to disable the wget part and that can be done with a single sed one-liner, e.g.

sed -i 's/available wget/false/' [path to script]/install-vivaldi.sh

(where "[path to script]" is replaced with the actual path)

Now the script will always use curl and should work just fine, even on Arch.

P.S. The script will realise it is modified and fetch a vanilla version for you and save it in your download directory as install-vivaldi-snapshot_new.sh or install-vivaldi-snapshot_new-[date].sh, so it will be easy to revert the change.

[Folgore101]

@Vistaus said in YouTube RSS support – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2131.8:

I like the idea of the new tab stacking feature, but what I would really, really, really like is tree tabs (natively, not that crappy mod from the forums). If needed, I'd even pay up to $100 to get that feature.

Hi, it's not very nice to call the work of other users crappy. Users who make mods do it to help other users improve their browsing experience with Vivaldi, they do it by dedicating time and effort.

[A Former User]

@Folgore101 I’m not the author of the mod (so our opinions can, & probably will, differ), but IMO sometimes honesty is better (I couldn’t find the mod now so I don’t know how crappy it is). Yeah, one should appreciate others’ work, but there’s a difference between appreciation & flattery.

OTOH, I agree that the word is unnecessary in the post.

[Hadden89]

@potmeklecbohdan Is quite much you can obtain with a sidebar/panel [limited] API.
Pretty much the same is on Firefox, sadly.

[Abhimanyu]

hi fellow vivaldians, can anyone tell me about the new vivaldi feature- mail, what exactly will it do, I am not well aware about imap, pop3 thing and how can I setup my gmail accounts with that. Please help me by instructing me in easy to understand language. Thanks

[Pesala]

@Abhimanyu It is super easy to setup.

• Enable the mail client in vivaldi://experiments
• Restart Vivaldi
• In Settings, Mail, Add a new account by clicking the + sign
• Enter your email address
• Enter your login password for the account.

If that fails, please ask in the Support forum for Mail

[Folgore101]

@potmeklecbohdan Obviously they shouldn't be flattered regardless of the result of their work, if a mod works for you doing what you need you thank the author, if the mod doesn't do what you need a "It doesn't do what i need and i don't like it" is more than enough.
I don't know what the mod in question is, partly because i don't care about it for my own use, but it's just a question of how to relate to others.

As you rightly pointed out, the word used that was not the best choice to express his discontent.

[Ruarí]

@guigirl Maybe but we have made no changes in our server configuration during the time period when it started to work for you again (and obviously there are no changes to the script). Additionally, only Arch users (or very close Arch derivatives) have reported these issues. Not a single report from anyone else on another distro. So to me this still seems most likely to be a problem on Arch side and we know there have been changes on the Arch side, so I don't quite follow your 'logical' conclusion to be honest.

[Ruarí]

@guigirl said in YouTube RSS support – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2131.8:

I find it interesting & amusing, & probably also a word beginning with h, that nobody has had the temerity to [successfully] flag any of the posts investigating & discussing this script issue, as being OT. Am i being just a tad cynical that had this conversation not included a senior V-Teamer, the squawks & flags would have been abundant?

Why would they be off topic? The point of snapshots is to find and resolve issues, so that they do not affect stable users. Problems with the configuration of our websites' certificate setup would be very likely to cause issues for them. The script was never the issue, it was just something that highlighted potential issues with our website configuration. @npro reported the issue also (in a bug report) but he was not using the script, rather he was just using wget to fetch debug binaries from our server.

P.S. The script is specifically designed for snapshot testing and is linked from every single snapshot. Again it seems on topic to me that it would be discussed and troubleshooted in comments about snapshots. There would be no complaints if we were troubleshooting the rpm, deb, dmg or exe snapshot installers, would there?

[npro]

OMZ there's so much to quote, where to start now?

@Ruarí @guigirl
Being not an expert on certificates handling I will just throw my (amateurish) observations so that an expert can ditch the whole or extract the info that can be useful:

-wget depends on gnutls, gnutls on nss and nss has broken certificates in Arch in the past (https://www.archlinux.org/news/nss3511-1-and-lib32-nss3511-1-updates-require-manual-intervention/) so it theoretically could be the problem, (*but)

-Manjaro had some certificate issues in the past, like 5? 3? years ago but as far as I remember it affected their own servers, so I had some uncertainty if it was MJ related or Arch related in the first place, so I asked for confirmation

-Following @Gwen-Dragon advice:

@ouzowtf Please update your root CA and intermediate certificates.
I guess they are not up to date.
https://letsencrypt.org/2020/09/17/new-root-and-intermediates.html

I ran the trust [...] command in a MJ VM and it fixed the issue, though it is not possible for me to remember now if (any) server issues were resolved by the time I typed it (next time I will use script and log it), as...

-(*but) for 3 days and despite having no MJ updates I was getting the certificate error but after it was being discussed here (and maybe the bug-report) the problem is no more (so I don't need to execute the trust command this time)

-Runningecho | openssl s_client -connect downloads.vivaldi.com:443 2>/dev/null | grep -A6 "Certificate chain" now puts out:

Certificate chain
 0 s:CN = downloads.vivaldi.com
   i:C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
 1 s:C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
   i:O = Digital Signature Trust Co., CN = DST Root CA X3
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Server certificate

while a day ago it was this:

Certificate chain
 0 s:CN = downloads.vivaldi.com
   i:C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
 1 s:C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
   i:O = Digital Signature Trust Co., CN = DST Root CA X3
 2 s:C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
   i:O = Digital Signature Trust Co., CN = DST Root CA X3

which if we follow

@Gwen-Dragon said in YouTube RSS support – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2131.8:

@Ruarí See Test at https://www.immuniweb.com/ssl/?id=CFReT5y6

shows us this:

RSA CERTIFICATE INFORMATION
Valid From December 5th 2020, 06:46 CET

So out of observation and gut feeling I assume (and as we all know that "assumption is the mother of all f-ups" :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye: )

that it was a server issue, already fixed and wget somehow showed it.

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/added:
Re-ran the immuniweb test as of now, looks good

[Stardust]

Feeds from YouTube are working (without a mail account)!
Nice!

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But it would be nice to have a notification icon on the address bar
Current notifications are too quick and easily can be missed.
There is an unread icon the side-panel, but I keep the panel hidden.