Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview

purgat0ri

@edger: I'm getting this too. Such a shame. My preference would be to not use Gmail at all, but unfortunately I need it for work. I hope Google fix the problem soon, because M3 is a dream come true in every other respect!

jon

@purgat0ri said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@edger: I'm getting this too. Such a shame. My preference would be to not use Gmail at all, but unfortunately I need it for work. I hope Google fix the problem soon, because M3 is a dream come true in every other respect!

We are pushing Google. Great if you do as well. This truly is an absurd situation.

Folgore101

@jon How can i urge Google to fix the problem?

mossman

@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@luetage , Google is requiring us to use this login method. They do support old clients with traditional IMAP login, but users have to go through a lot of hoops to enable that.

Ah! I have experience of constantly re-enabling access for "insecure" Thunderbird login to my wife's GMail, so I suppose I can do the same for Vivaldi and my own GMail account...

(I hadn't tried GMail yet after reading about the stupid 100 access limit)

By the way, I have no problems using GMail in Opera 12.

Marko Indaco

Thank you!

jon

@mossman said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@luetage , Google is requiring us to use this login method. They do support old clients with traditional IMAP login, but users have to go through a lot of hoops to enable that.

Ah! I have experience of constantly re-enabling access for "insecure" Thunderbird login to my wife's GMail, so I suppose I can do the same for Vivaldi and my own GMail account...

(I hadn't tried GMail yet after reading about the stupid 100 access limit)

By the way, I have no problems using GMail in Opera 12.

I guess you have been using it so long that it might be grandfathered in. New clients do not have that much luck.

jon

@Folgore101 said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@jon How can i urge Google to fix the problem?

That would be complaining to them that you are seeing this message.

Lets hope they respond to use quickly. There is hope.

peefy

@jon Thanks for this great mail/cal/rss client! @mossman

I am using gmail for years now too.
I just turned off OAuth in my GMail settings but unfortunately it still does not work.
see https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53348/any-workarounds-for-gmail-login-authentication-issue/2
I guess we have to wait for google, unless someone finds a workaround

mikestone

Can we assume that Feeds will sync through Vivaldi.net as well? Not just the feeds, but whether an item is read or not, etc?

jon

@peefy said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@jon Thanks for this great mail/cal/rss client! @mossman

I am using gmail for years now too.
I just turned off OAuth in my GMail settings but unfortunately it still does not work.
see https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53348/any-workarounds-for-gmail-login-authentication-issue/2
I guess we have to wait for google, unless someone finds a workaround

@peefy , thank you for your kind words.

Sorry that did not work. It worked for @saudiqbal using POP. I really hope they fix this soon!

jon

@mikestone said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

Can we assume that Feeds will sync through Vivaldi.net as well? Not just the feeds, but whether an item is read or not, etc?

@mikestone , we have not enabled sync like that. We might offer that in the future, but no decision has been made on that at this time. As you know, we generally do what you ask us to do, so if you want it, it will be on our list.

Steffie

@Steffie said in Address bar and tab fixes, better DRM support, plus the start of the Mail, Calendar and RSS Technical Previews – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.4:

Now that i have finally left the starting line, all these hours after everyone else, post-lunch i'm a gonna throw one of my POP3 email accounts at it & see what happens.

I woke up one of my hitherto disused POP3 email accounts to use as a low-risk guinea pig in our exciting new V-SS Mail facility. When i manually configured it in V Settings, it failed to complete, throwing a misconfigured error. I backed out & started over, this time letting V do it automatically, which surprised me by succeeding... despite the visible settings fields seeming to hold the same values as i'd recently tried with manually. Huh?

Almost as soon as the configuring completed, i was happy to see a few new messages arrived, so i infer that the config must be correct. However... so far, all attempts i have made to Send an email i have drafted, have failed. No matter how often i click the Send icon, nothing at all happens. Huh?

Other questions:

Will a future version allow us to optionally display the full headers for incoming emails, not just the abridged headers as now? I use the full headers in my Thunderbird setup.
In Thunderbird i make really extensive use of the Add-On "XNote++" to annotate myriad historic emails with important notes. I MUST have this functionality. Can i dare hope some future V version might provide similar functionality?

Ayespy

@Steffie My guess would be that SMTP is somehow misconfigured (wrong server name, wrong authentication protocol, wrong password or no password, whatever). I've not tried POP3 in M3 thus far, but it seems its working for the testers who have tried it.

Steffie

@Ayespy Obviously i'm in no position at all to know for certain that you're right or not, but assuming you are, then Vivaldi sure does not make it easy for me to ascertain it. This plethora of green ticks would have fooled me...

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sgunhouse

For most mail systems, the outgoing server name is different from the incoming server - check to make sure that is correct.

Ayespy

@Steffie Do you have another mail client wherein you could verify those port numbers? My POP3 accounts use different ports for the most part, if they are not "secure" setups (110 and 25) or if they are secure setups, then 995 and 587.

The green checks mean that M3 tested those ports with the username and password you provided and got the expected response. So it thinks you're set up right. But you should still verify those ports.

Steffie

@sgunhouse They are [correct AND different]. The same values work correctly in Thunderbird. Beats me, so far.

I had a sudden flickering lightbulb -- i run all my browsers in the Firejail sandbox, so maybe FJ is blocking something critical to the new mail component? Alas no, that ain't it ... relaunching V "naked", sans-FJ, makes no difference at all.

Steffie

@Ayespy Ta. They work in TB.

Ayespy

@Steffie Frustrating.

Steffie

@Ayespy Oh, it'll be MY stuff-up, for sure. It's just that i'm pretty talented wrt stuffing-up, hence at the moment i've still not uncovered exactly what my latest hideous mistake will have been. Still plodding away.