Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview

joeduffus

@jon: Can you hazard a guess as to how long it will be before Google approves the Vivaldi email client for Gmail access? It's probably the very first email account most new users will try to configure in the email client when they try it out so if it's going to take Google some time I'd humbly suggest you add some sort of notice on the Add Account page letting people know it doesn't work for now. Just my $.02.

Linu74

@joeduffus said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@jon: Can you hazard a guess as to how long it will be before Google approves the Vivaldi email client for Gmail access? It's probably the very first email account most new users will try to configure in the email client when they try it out so if it's going to take Google some time I'd humbly suggest you add some sort of notice on the Add Account page letting people know it doesn't work for now. Just my $.02.

The thing with Google is not because of Vivaldi. Only Google itself can give the answer.

I also hope that Google will be able to see it soon.

Linu74

jon

@Linu74 & @joeduffus , indeed. We are communicating with Google. They keep asking us to provide them with more stuff before they give us access. I am hopeful this will be resolved shortly, but I do not know.

We will, however, offer a way for you to connect with Google without the need to use OAuth. It is a bit more cumbersome, as they have made it so, but that is working in internal builds.

hlehyaric

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mossman

@guigirl said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@hstoellinger said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

under Thunderbird I have a hierarchy of local folders>
I'm surprised that nobody seems to have replied to you yet
I also make extensive nested folder hierarchies in Thunderbird

I think the reason seasoned Opera M2 users haven't replied (speaking from personal experience) is that you're in a mindset which will be changed once you get using M3 in earnest.

Manually separating mails into folders is pointless in a database which can be filtered in infinite ways to get the view you want. If you genuinely need to regularly view mails grouped in certain ways then you just set up filters for it. These can emulate the folder idea if you create filters for each family member for example.

But the bottom line is that in most cases it's redundant. You already get a conversation view on any contact by clicking that contact in the contact list... And if you send one mail to multiple contacts, or you receive a mail from someone who also sent it to other people you know then that single mail will appear for any of those contact filters.

Also, you can quickly do a search for just about any combination of contacts, subjects, phrases in the body etc. whenever you need to look for anything. No formal sorting required beforehand.

Physically working on moving and copying mails around is pointless in M3!

luetage

@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

They keep asking us to provide them with more stuff before they give us access.

Your souls
don’t do it, it’s a trap🪤

Ayespy

@izero The search is extremely fast. It evidently indexes mail contents when they are downloaded,

mossman

@guigirl Thanks for taking my point in the way it was intended. I completely understand the hierarchy mindset since that's what I had before M2 and it's what every other mail program continues to follow.

But the flexibility and efficiency of the database model in M2 is why I think most of us ex-Opera mail users were crying out for the promised mail client in Vivaldi and why a lot of us stuck with Opera 12 during this period of limbo.

It took a short while to get used to when Opera itself went from M1 to M2 and many people were sceptical at the time. But it quickly became apparent that it was a - for want of a better word - more advanced way of doing things (similarly with feed integration). I hope you will stick around and come to like it like I do.

Ayespy

@guigirl They are already working on it, so don't put it past them.

JoaBravo

@Gwen-Dragon

Please allow me an unusual consultation. Sometimes, I had occasion, if I remember correctly, to read some sparse sayings of yours, with great affection for the eM Client.

If I am correct, can you tell me what is your current position on the matter?

The question is because I hardly ever dismiss an email client. So, while the M3 didn't arrive, I've been using that email client. And am I not far from accompanying your affection from those times that I am now evoking, perhaps times that persist until today?

Thank you in advance.

Ayespy

@JoaBravo I will allow @Gwen-Dragon to answer for herself. I will say, however, that I bought a lifetime license for EM Client Pro in October of 2013 because I thought it was flexible and feature-rich enough that it would take care of all my EMail needs. I discovered that I really didn't like it very much, and so I never use it any more. It has lots of features that are of no use to me, and at the same time has what I consider to be very unreliable data-handling characteristics, while being resource-hungry and slow to deploy when used with accounts that contain large amounts (hundreds of thousands) of email. I was initially so enthusiastic about it that I also set up my wife with a free version for her email, and it became a kind of nightmare for her. So, as I say, we no longer use it.

JoaBravo

@Ayespy

Thank you for all. I have a paid version (but not the newest), because of the need to enable more than two accounts to it.

My SSD had (many) problems, one of those was to uninstall eM, default myself (at sense of without consult me). When SSD was pennously fixed, I contacted eM support to try to reinstall. And I succeeded, thanks the affectionated shelter I've received from a graduate member of the support. Who, last Christmas, upgraded it graciously, as a unexpected gift for the remarkable date . So, as in addition it attends very well my needs, I fear will not be that soon I'll take to concede to M3 the same passionate love I had by M2.

JoaBravo

@Gwen-Dragon

Thank you very much. Attention and memory once more confirmed, from my part, modesty apart.

Your vows of love were not persistent. They did not accompany the fados of Amália Rodrigues, who sang about an ex-lover: "... who lied to me, but I adored him so much !!!"

Do dragonflies use all the flames they have only to burn Greeks and Trojans?

Stardust

@Gwen-Dragon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

I do not fall in love with programs

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JoaBravo

@Gwen-Dragon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

If you tell me a bout such good singer and her song, please, where is the link to a video/audio?

Excuse me, the link is not found equally by everyone.
It depends on the extent that the love / feeling of each one reaches in relation to everything. Some are more restricted, others more comprehensive.
But, above all, I appreciate you very much and wanted to play a little (or completely) crazy game. Don't pay too much attention.

JoaBravo

@Gwen-Dragon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:

@JoaBravo I do not fall in love with programs, dear

the fados of Amália Rodrigues, who sang

If you tell me a bout such good singer and her song, please, where is the link to a video/audio?

Answer 2 - I just thought of a link to the ideas. But if this is more physical, then you have. from 1:01 to 1:13 minutes of the sequence.

JoaBravo

@Gwen-Dragon

Many times ago, in the past century, she attracted special attention from some people who achieve find an ineffable quality of Portuguese people.
Some French great "cinéastes" made a film, 1960? 1962?, giving her a significant proeminence, singing "Solidão" (or "Canção do Mar"). The film here was named "Os amantes do Tejo" (possibly "Les Amoureux du Tage").

JoaBravo

@JoaBravo

I thought I would not find nothing about the film, but, surprisingly, I have found that which I myself had never seen.

sjudenim

moved

JoaBravo

@Stardust

It is an image that does not let me pass without manifesting the transcendent "rapture" that the ineffable expression of this look and face caused me !!!

This beauty and expression are not from this world or for this world. And, somehow and incongruously, they can find here a place and conditions to manifest themselves. Transcendentally.

Gwen ???