Vivaldi versus the new Microsoft Edge

rigsby999

I've been using Vivaldi for some time and have had some issues, especially with updates incompatible with my Symantec/Norton AV.

I have just updated Microsoft Edge to the new Chromium based version and I find it pretty good, especially now that Chrome extensions can be used. As Vivaldi is also based on Chrome, I'm wondering what the benefits of continuing to use Vivaldi would be? Are there any features that do not exist in the new Edge?

robtpatrick

Most important is transparency! Microsoft, like Google and others do not tell all; next you have no tracking with Vivaldi; this is one of so many reasons why I use Vivaldi; next Vivaldi, for me has features for my disability, not those, where I am forced to use those not applicable, When I have installed Vivaldi, I ALWAYS fo to my 17 Vivaldi preferences, so I will customize.
Lastly, there is honesty in Vivaldi; am upfront approach, not just install.

npro

@rigsby999 said in Vivaldi versus the new Microsoft Edge:

Are there any features that do not exist in the new Edge?

Not sure if kidding or trolling.

rigsby999

@npro No I'm not kidding or trolling!! Please enlighten me as to what can be done in Vivaldi that can't be done in Edge!

Pathduck

Let's see... these are the things most import to me for a functional browser, in addition to the things mentioned by @robtpatrick above (transparency, privacy):

Full keyboard accessibility in web-pages and UI.
Panels (a browser without panels is unusable to me now.)
Quick Commands.
Mouse gestures.
Custom Speed Dials
Proper bookmarks management.
Custom search engines.
Full complement of settings to control every part of the browser.
Sync of bookmarks/passwords/settings etc.
Customisability of the UI through themes (and CSS mods).

Pesala

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npro

@rigsby999 Check every link here https://vivaldi.com/features/

Blackbird

@rigsby999 said in Vivaldi versus the new Microsoft Edge:

I've been using Vivaldi for some time and have had some issues, especially with updates incompatible with my Symantec/Norton AV.

I have just updated Microsoft Edge to the new Chromium based version and I find it pretty good, especially now that Chrome extensions can be used. As Vivaldi is also based on Chrome, I'm wondering what the benefits of continuing to use Vivaldi would be? Are there any features that do not exist in the new Edge?

It all comes down to three factors, the relative importance (or non-importance) of which depends on the individual browser user:

As @robtpatrick noted, "transparency" of both the browser design and its developing company. This involves everything from the browser's response to user tracking as it appears in settings and design vulnerabity all the way to whether the developing company has a vested interest in user tracking/data-marketing that might conflict with minimizing the risks of tracking or revealing user data in their browser design.
As others have noted, "feature set" native to the browser. This involves everything from comparative ease-of-use of common features to the richness of the total built-in feature set. Some browsers do some things easier than others; some browsers do more kinds of things than others, some browsers do both. IMO, Vivaldi does both.
The third factor is performance, as in what things a browser does well. However, this is enormously affected by which areas involve how a given user employs their browser and their expectations. A key part of this performance factor, often overlooked, is the developers' involvement with (and their listening to) user feedback - in that arena Vivaldi has been outstanding. While resource limitations exist in which Vivaldi fixes can be made and when, for which issues (and ALL browsers have issues) , my observation is that Vivaldi makes the most concerted and conscientious effort to resolve them of any browser currently going.

If you've been using Vivaldi for some time, you should already have something of a feel for the second and third factors in terms of how you use a browser. In terms of the first factor, if personal privacy or freedom from tracking/data-marketing is important to you at all, there is no question in my mind Vivaldi will come down well ahead of either Edge or Chrome - and, given the integrity and business model of Vivaldi's developing organization, is extremely likely to remain that way into the far distant future.

hanslysw

Microsoft Edge trickery vs. Vivaldi browser being humble

To add what has been mentioned, the new Chromium-based Microsoft Edge actually steals your data from other browsers after you use it for the first time—even if you do not want to import browser data from other browsers. I've not only read about it in articles, but I've experienced it. For instance, the new Microsoft Edge in the beta release actually copied my Google Chrome data into the browser even if I do not want it to get copied, I mean to start anew.

Unlike Microsoft Edge, the Vivaldi browser does not automatically copy from other browsers. You have to use the import wizard to do so, and it still does not copy everything.

In fact, I did an experiment on my Mac to answer the question, "How easily does Chrome-based browsers copy user data?" I copied my profile from a newer Chrome version to Microsoft Edge beta and it did look like my Microsoft Edge browser just used my copied data—indeed, they were attempting to copy browser data, but it wasn't implemented properly: you still had to manually do it. Meanwhile, in Vivaldi, it just deleted my user data and/or made some imported data not work and/or reset my user data.

Amazing features in Vivaldi vs. Microsoft Edge
Some good things about Microsoft Edge is having a collections list, but I do personally say that was just the Vivaldi notes and the bookmarks list in Vivaldi. They also allow customizations, but in fact, it is just only hiding and showing a limited number of buttons. They also allow drawing over PDFs and highlighting it which Vivaldi does not have.

However, Vivaldi has more customization menus. I mean, you can hide and show more menus on the toolbar compared to Microsoft Edge. Just as mentioned in a previous post, there are also toolbars which is also customizable.

They both do not apply Chrome themes, but Microsoft Edge without Chrome themes installation enabled has very limited toolbar color customization: only black, white, or auto. Chrome themes are naturally disabled in Microsoft Edge as well. Meanwhile, in Vivaldi, you can create your own toolbar theme. Besides, Vivaldi allows installation of Chrome themes but it only applies to chrome://apps and the local new tabs.

There is in fact more features in Vivaldi, together with at least better privacy, than that of Microsoft Edge. However, Microsoft Edge is still useful, but Vivaldi in itself is more preferable.

Furax31

One word : Pricacy.

Vivaldi > Edge

Priest72

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Catweazle

I can think of a million differences why Vivaldi is better than Edge. Not only what was mentioned about privacy and functionality like Web Panel, Tab stacking, hibernating, saving as session, tiled multi-page view, full-screen editor notes, sync end2end encrypted and independent of GoogleSync, etc., but also a simpler thing, a community that is dedicated to solving any problem that may arise and not just a pre-made FAQ that ends with the question "Has it been helpful?" (usually not)

Pesala

@Catweazle I can think of half a dozen reasons why accuracy is better than hyperbole.

elesemonokalis

If you're talking about privacy which I don't care about,
Vivaldi > Edge
If you're talking about performance (which is the main reason I use Edge),
Edge > Vivaldi

mib2berlin

@elesemonokalis
Hi, except starting the browser Edge is not faster for me, I test several browser benchmarks and get not much difference.
How did you test this?

Cheers, mib

luetage

@mib2berlin Edge is written in native code, just like Chrome, Firefox, et al. The UI will generally react and startup faster than in Vivaldi. If that’s the only thing you care about in a browser, there’s no good reason to use Vivaldi.

mib2berlin

@luetage
Hm, I don´t care about at all, @elesemonokalis does, I fear.

Cheers, mib