Backspace shortcut should be disabled by default

WildEnte

@saudiqbal in my experience, going "forward" after the accidental back sometimes brings me back to where I left off, and I will give off a sigh of relief (I have removed Backspace in the options)

From my perspective it's a matter of simple risk assessment to choose the default setting, and the outcome is rather clear:

Backspace for back in default:
Likelihood of happening some time in the worst possible moment for someone who doesn't know it's the default: medium to high. Consequence: bad to terrible

Remove Backspace from the default:
Likelihood of annoying some users: very high
Consequences: negligible, as tinkering and customization is kind of a normal thing to do with Vivaldi

krystian

@joeschmo I agree, it is annoying.

hmazuji

ModEdit: Comment removed for breaking the Code of Conduct.

hmazuji

@hmazuji
pesala, i'm through with you
i'm going back to chrome

Pesala

@hmazuji Thanks for the entertainment. Good luck on your journey. You can always backtrack if you find that Chrome is also badly flawed.

Twelve upvotes for this request after three and a half years is not a lot. I guess that it does not affect most users, or if it does, that they are happy to remove it (as I have done).

FYI: Firefox no longer uses it.

I just installed Vivaldi.1.0.344.37.x64 to check, and that also used Backspace for History Back.

marin3rol3on

And you couldn't type in how you disabled it while you were complaining?

I just had this happen to me, when the text area lost focus, I pressed the backspace only to realize that I just lost everything I was working on and I can't find in the settings how to disable that behavior.

So for anybody here: it's called History Back.

I don't even understand why it isn't called 'Go Back' or 'Previous Page' or 'Go to Previous Page' or something like that.

These are the type of things that can make me lose my temper. Why simple thing complicated? Why delete key used to refresh page?

Now have to do thing again, lost work. Thank you Vivaldi

marin3rol3on

@Pesala That has to be one of the worst answers I've ever read on addressing an issue of a product. If this was an answer given to me on a coffee shop, restaurant or any other kind of service I would NEVER do business with said establishment again and I would trash it non-stop to anybody interested in said service.

Check yourself

Pesala

@marin3rol3on You are unable to see the abusive comments made by hmazuji, so you don‘t know the context. I also cannot see the edited comment. Some users like to complain about nothing. I stated things as I see them. The backspace shortcut can easily be removed. There is no convincing reason to change the default, which would annoy all existing users, just to satisfy a dozen or so users who don’t like the shortcut.

In many coffee shops, abuse of the staff is not tolerated. If the shop doesn’t have what the customer wants, the staff can only state the facts. If the customer is not satisfied; they should go elsewhere without abusing anyone, especially those who have no power to change the situation, and are just serving the customers, as is their duty.

NoBacksies

The option should be disabled by default.

This is extra work that will never be looked at unless a user has had a traumatic experience. It is much less of a problem to make people turn on a thing that can cause issues rather than set it as the default, especially when they are as adept at setting options as we see the Default On supports are here.

I understand this is an old convention. I also think most people have never liked it. I just lost 45 minutes of work to this issue and I am going to blame Vivaldi for it, fair or not.

Pesala

@NoBacksies Still only 15 upvotes after five years, which indicates that this is a low priority for most forum members.

It depends on where you are typing a message, but on many forums, the message is not lost on History Back. One just uses History Forward to edit the message. Here, the message box remains open with your draft text ready to post.

I submitted the post after History Back, and it was posted in the right place. Smart website code to avoid loss of data.