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    Vivaldi M3 - mail client, when?

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      zhnujm
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      I dont think its about lying or something its just what most people expect about "soon",
      Maybe a "Coming later" would reduce the expectations a bit.
      Simple change. πŸ™‚

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      • Ayespy
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        Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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        I disagree that it will be released in the Beta. A new feature of such magnitude would not make its first appearance in a Beta, but rather in a developer Snapshot so that it can get some broad public testing prior to Beta release. This means it will be released BEFORE the Beta, in at least a couple of Snapshots, or will be released after some public testing and debugging, in the second Beta.

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        • schreck
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          schreck
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          im in for testing the mail client if in need.

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          • Ayespy
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            Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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            Me, too. I'd even love to test it if it's a technical disaster at this point.

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            • mib2berlin
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              mib2berlin Soprano
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              Hi, Beta meant Feature Complete but likely to contain a number of known or unknown bugs.
              (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle)
              Vivaldi could release a closed Beta for example.

              Call me in, mib πŸ™‚

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              • Blackbird
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                Blackbird
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                If the web browser itself isn't fully stable or reasonably feature-complete at its basic levels, there seems little point in rushing to add a mail client on top of it. That can only complicate and delay stability solutions. I look at things this way: all of us have been getting by with regard to eMail clients in some way or another for a couple of years now… waiting some months more is not going to matter that much. Patience remains the watchword... the mail client will come.

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                • schreck
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                  schreck
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                  @schreck:

                  i am waiting since vivaldi came out and still no sign..

                  maybe they dont even work on it?
                  would be nice to at least know, how the status is. not even a single word on this is strange.

                  we would be all glad to bugtest it is normal users..

                  so could anyone from the devs drop a line maybe?

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                  • RVieira
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                    RVieira
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                    It is something that is definitely being worked on. Back in February, due to some sort of bug, the snapshot I installed had M3 available, as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/4OY3ziy.png . It was gone in the next update, but it used to work.

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                    • Ayespy
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                      Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                      It's definitely being worked on. A video was even posted, of the main EMail developer doing a powerpoint presentation of the technologies they are using, and why they chose each mail server access method, each database technology, etc.

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                      • RVieira
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                        RVieira
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                        @Gwen-Dragon:

                        I think the M3 you talk about got accidently into the wild.

                        Trust me, cirrently there are some issues and missing features with M3, it is usable for testing but not really for using all the day!

                        Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what happened – still, it means it is being built! πŸ™‚

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                        • schreck
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                          schreck
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                          interview with the ceo here:
                          http://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Vivaldi-Gruender-Ein-Mobilbrowser-ist-auf-unserer-Liste-2909859.html

                          he is using builds with m3 but he doesnt feel its ready. too buggy and the gui has to be worked on.

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                          • schreck
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                            schreck
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                            interesting video, i didnt know they are doing this in JS.
                            what are the main advantages and drawbacks for doing this in javascript?

                            but im guessing there wont be anything showable until next year 😎

                            question for the devs, will the mails be stored encrypted?
                            so only when you enter the master password, you get access to these?

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                            • An_dz
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                              An_dz
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                              One of the biggest drawbacks is running time, JS needs to be interpreted. C++ simply runs machine code after compilation

                              Biggest advantage is that the same JS can be shared by any OS, by any processor architecture. No need to have gazillion of code for every nuance of the architecture or OS.

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                              • schreck
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                                schreck
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                                which language is it in opera 12?
                                the whole browser is freezing seconds, when you empty the trash for example… (and thats with only 100 mails and ssd..)

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                                • schreck
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                                  schreck
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                                  any news?

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                                  • Ayespy
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                                    Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                                    @schreck:

                                    any news?

                                    Vivaldi doesn't give expected completion dates or progress reports. What we know from comments and interviews elsewhere on the web is:

                                    1. Jon want to include it in the next major version after Stable Version 1 (we are now approaching the third Beta toward Stable Version 1).
                                    2. They are "working hard" on it and have several internal testers testing it daily.
                                    3. It will not be released to the public until it is ready. The first official notice we will get of its progress will be the day it is included in a publicly-released build.

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                                    • schreck
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                                      schreck
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                                      thx 😎

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                                      • victarion
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                                        victarion
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                                        I guess we have to wait, Vivaldi still has some problem that needs to be attended
                                        In the meantime, I think you may want to consider these extensions to help you open your emails instantly without opening a new tab/website
                                        chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/checker-plus-for-gmail/oeopbcgkkoapgobdbedcemjljbihmemj
                                        https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ichrome-a-fast-productive/oghkljobbhapacbahlneolfclkniiami
                                        if you want the old opera rss feed then I have a solution here:
                                        https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-rss-aggregator/ffhafkagcdhnhamiaecajogjcfgienom

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                                          g6radio
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                                          I am very very interested in a new email client that can handle maybe 20 different email addresses.

                                          I use windows live mail 2012 at present but that will stop working on hotmail and outlook in a few weeks.

                                          i hope vivaldi will develop such a client very soon

                                          I want a fully automatic client that checks up to 20 email addresses automatic upon opening.

                                          tnx

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                                          • Pesala
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                                            You could always check out Opera while you're waiting.

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