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Vivaldi M3 - mail client, when?
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interview with the ceo here:
http://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Vivaldi-Gruender-Ein-Mobilbrowser-ist-auf-unserer-Liste-2909859.htmlhe is using builds with m3 but he doesnt feel its ready. too buggy and the gui has to be worked on.
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interesting video, i didnt know they are doing this in JS.
what are the main advantages and drawbacks for doing this in javascript?but im guessing there wont be anything showable until next year
question for the devs, will the mails be stored encrypted?
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One of the biggest drawbacks is running time, JS needs to be interpreted. C++ simply runs machine code after compilation
Biggest advantage is that the same JS can be shared by any OS, by any processor architecture. No need to have gazillion of code for every nuance of the architecture or OS.
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which language is it in opera 12?
the whole browser is freezing seconds, when you empty the trash for example… (and thats with only 100 mails and ssd..) -
any news?
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any news?
Vivaldi doesn't give expected completion dates or progress reports. What we know from comments and interviews elsewhere on the web is:
- Jon want to include it in the next major version after Stable Version 1 (we are now approaching the third Beta toward Stable Version 1).
- They are "working hard" on it and have several internal testers testing it daily.
- It will not be released to the public until it is ready. The first official notice we will get of its progress will be the day it is included in a publicly-released build.
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thx
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I guess we have to wait, Vivaldi still has some problem that needs to be attended
In the meantime, I think you may want to consider these extensions to help you open your emails instantly without opening a new tab/website
chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/checker-plus-for-gmail/oeopbcgkkoapgobdbedcemjljbihmemj
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ichrome-a-fast-productive/oghkljobbhapacbahlneolfclkniiami
if you want the old opera rss feed then I have a solution here:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-rss-aggregator/ffhafkagcdhnhamiaecajogjcfgienom -
I am very very interested in a new email client that can handle maybe 20 different email addresses.
I use windows live mail 2012 at present but that will stop working on hotmail and outlook in a few weeks.
i hope vivaldi will develop such a client very soon
I want a fully automatic client that checks up to 20 email addresses automatic upon opening.
tnx
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You could always check out Opera while you're waiting.
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I am very very interested in a new email client that can handle maybe 20 different email addresses.
I use windows live mail 2012 at present but that will stop working on hotmail and outlook in a few weeks.
i hope vivaldi will develop such a client very soon
I want a fully automatic client that checks up to 20 email addresses automatic upon opening.
tnx
Until the integrated client matures enough to be published, surely OperaMail is the best offline email client out there, but you can take in account also Windows Mail (the one from Vista i mean).
Don't forget also the power Vivaldi of webpanels, my suggestion to have the mobile view by default was purposely aimed to get a simplified webmail mail view on the side, to have a sorta of "ghetto email client".
Wile that is not a mail client replacement is a pretty handy way to check your mail from the browser.
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I think that would be "bated" breath, not "baited." But, me too. My major concern right now would be the database operations of the client. I saw a comment from someone testing the client the other day, that operations (searches, ordering, etc.) concerning LARGE volumes of email would be very slow if the client were released in its present state. I look forward eagerly to a client which is robust, and fully functional.
(Now - as to "bated" versus "baited." the word "bated" is a shortened form of "abated," meaning held back, reduced, eliminated, or stopped. In other words, the person who is waiting with "bated" breath is holding their breath. "Baited" breath would be breath which perhaps has little bits of cheese, bologna or earthworm in it, to attract fish. Although waiting for a fish to bite is definitely an exercise in anticipation, I don't think anyone actually "baits" their breath.) End of language lesson for the day!
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I look forward two seeing the first email client ever with a grammar chequer. It would be grate for chequing text in form posts to. People who can touch-type often mix common homonyms like their and their, and there, your and you're, etc., and a spell-checker cannot catch very common errors and typos.
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Talk of slow and/or buggy database management is a bit surprising, since just the other day I was marveling at how Opera 12 still manages to do a zippy search through my 70000 mails when I'm looking for something - even when I'm using the laptop over wireless to access mail stored on the main PC!
Of course the downside to using WiFi for this is that Windows will occasionally barf on the connection, and on rare occasions that can screw up the indexing (if I get the dreaded "delayed-write error")! Luckily I've only had to rebuild the database a handful of times, and I've usually managed to start from a backup and just re-import recently sent and received mails. But a more robust database system would certainly be a good thing from my perspective…
Edit: actually, I've always wished Opera had a "fix mail database" option to clean out any broken indexing and find any stray messages lost in storage. If Vivaldi can do this then I won't be too worried.
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I watched a video concerning how the M3 email client is being built. It is relying on a completely different technological base from the one OldeOpera built on top of Presto, and its inner workings are in no way similar to M2.
That said, my wife's email database in M2 is so big that it takes over a minute just to get the inbox to appear (spending all that time "loading" the database) and searches take essentially forever. Searches in my personal M2 email are pretty quick, but are substantially incomplete. If I don't enter the exact right search term, I can miss dozens of emails. So there's room for improvement in the old standard, as well. Here's hoping M3 gets it right.
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a year since i opened this topic :dry:
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The mail client continues to be developed. The size of the team working on it has been doubled (from 2 to 4). There is progress every week. It still is not ready for prime time. There is no anticipated release date.
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Gosh, I've been trying to find a decent mail or even a decent feed reader and every single one has a drawback somewhere. I've tested literally dozens of apps, both win32 and UWP apps.
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well–- currently thunderbird is using up too much ram and im trying alternatives, tho none come close. maybe ye'ol integrated mail client would do
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It might make sense to install Opera 12.17 (or 12.18) and use M2. There is a standalone version too, called Opera Mail
I have a feeling that we might be waiting until Christmas for M3, though no one is saying.
When it is finally released it might not support POP at first.
