Any word on M3? (internal mail client)
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
We have feeds support.
There are some things I'd like to see in this area eventually.
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When RSS/Atom feeds are detected on the page, there should be an RSS icon in the address field. When you click it, you should have multiple options:
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Open the feed in M3.
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Open the feed in a feed web service of your choice. (Default-provided ones with the option to define your own with a template URL)
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Open the feed in the program on the system associated with the feed protocol. This means that Vivaldi, should convert
https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
for example tofeed://https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
, load it in a tab so it gets passed to the default feed handler on the system (Thunderbird for example), and close the tab. -
An "Open with other program" option to choose a specific program with the option of passing the http(s) URL or passing it as a feed URL.
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Option to set one of those as the default-selected one.
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Those options can be on a feed preview page like Opera 12 does. The whole thing would be a lot like Opera 12.
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Vivaldi should support the feed protocol itself too and it should support being set as the default feed protocol handler on the system.
For example:
vivaldi.exe feed://https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
would load the preview page where you can then decide what to do with it in the preview page using the options mentioned above. Doing:
vivaldi.exe https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
in this case would have the same end result of course, but that would be via feed:// association.
Opera 12 had a lot of this. It was mostly just missing feed URL support.
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@Nekomajin said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@jon
I mean, can I have a Feeds panel or a Feeds page (like Bookmarks and History) without seeing anything related to emails? I like to keep the UI as clean as possible to decrease the clutter. Moreover, the Chromium engine already eats a lot of resources, I don't want any more processes running in the background, which I don't use.Over time we will offer more flexibility here. Initially the feeds functionality is built on top of the mailer. They use the same structure, which has a lot of benefits. Anyways, you will get to play with this all soon. You may just find that you like it the way it is.
Cheers,
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@burnout426 said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
We have feeds support.
There are some things I'd like to see in this area eventually.
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When RSS/Atom feeds are detected on the page, there should be an RSS icon in the address field. When you click it, you should have multiple options:
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Open the feed in M3.
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Open the feed in a feed web service of your choice. (Default-provided ones with the option to define your own with a template URL)
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Open the feed in the program on the system associated with the feed protocol. This means that Vivaldi, should convert
https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
for example tofeed://https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
, load it in a tab so it gets passed to the default feed handler on the system (Thunderbird for example), and close the tab. -
An "Open with other program" option to choose a specific program with the option of passing the http(s) URL or passing it as a feed URL.
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Option to set one of those as the default-selected one.
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Those options can be on a feed preview page like Opera 12 does. The whole thing would be a lot like Opera 12.
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Vivaldi should support the feed protocol itself too and it should support being set as the default feed protocol handler on the system.
For example:
vivaldi.exe feed://https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
would load the preview page where you can then decide what to do with it in the preview page using the options mentioned above. Doing:
vivaldi.exe https://vivaldi.com/blog/feed/
in this case would have the same end result of course, but that would be via feed:// association.
Opera 12 had a lot of this. It was mostly just missing feed URL support.
Once M3 is out, you can play with this all and provide feedback. Our goal is, of course, to offer the kind of flexibility you want. Not everything will be in the first version, but we have quite a lot in there already.
Cheers,
Jon. -
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@jon And I presume the mail will appear in a snapshot and only then after some stable (as was done for sync).
I'm quite curious to see this long waited flexible mail app. One imap account is waiting it ^^ -
@Hadden89 said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@jon And I presume the mail will appear in a snapshot and only then after some stable (as was done for sync).
I'm quite curious to see this long waited flexible mail app. One imap account is waiting it ^^Yes, we will see this in early versions before any final release. Clearly it needs to be tested widely.
Cheers,
Jon. -
@burnout426 See, for me your requirements are all nice to haves (except maybe for RSS preview which I find more essential). I would much rather have contacts integrated into my M3, and settings about when to add mail addresses to them (based on the account I use) and also, which account should be used to send emails when I have a specific recipient etc.
And I am sooooo much looking forward to the calendar. Cannot wait!
@jon Thank you for engaging with us about these topics. Much appreciated.
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stop teasing with info and details please since we don't know when it's coming, it creates huge expectations which makes the waiting unbearable, which is not nice , not nice at all
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@npro I do appreciate to get some info and look forward seeing the first public version.
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@jumpsq said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@burnout426 See, for me your requirements are all nice to haves (except maybe for RSS preview which I find more essential). I would much rather have contacts integrated into my M3, and settings about when to add mail addresses to them (based on the account I use) and also, which account should be used to send emails when I have a specific recipient etc.
And I am sooooo much looking forward to the calendar. Cannot wait!
@jon Thank you for engaging with us about these topics. Much appreciated.
@jumpsq , the pleasure is all mine.
Cheers,
Jon. -
@npro said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
stop teasing with info and details please since we don't know when it's coming, it creates huge expectations which makes the waiting unbearable, which is not nice , not nice at all
@npro , sorry about that. I just feel that it is important to keep you in the loop. I am also telling you more as I am feeling confident that the wait will not be too long, but sadly we still need a bit more time.
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@kahukura said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@npro I do appreciate to get some info and look forward seeing the first public version.
@kahukura , I am so looking forward to showing you what we got. There is a lot in here, although I also know that some people will want more. That is expected, but we are trying to cover a lot of ground in the first release even.
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@npro said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
stop teasing with info and details please since we don't know when it's coming, it creates huge expectations which makes the waiting unbearable, which is not nice , not nice at all
@npro , sorry about that. I just feel that it is important to keep you in the loop. I am also telling you more as I am feeling confident that the wait will not be too long, but sadly we still need a bit more time.
Take all the time you need Jon, I appreciate that you are always around to communicate with us -often with more info than your position would allow- before anything else. I certainly prefer polished over good/promising but half-baked, as haters are usually waiting in the corner to use the latter for tearing apart the first with badmouth. Don't mind my hyperbole, everything so far was in good measure, can't wait for the next phase where the hype-machine officially starts going
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
the wait will not be too long, but sadly we still need a bit more time.
So we will get the next Stable release and then after that a Snapshot with M3 (perhaps) :face_savouring_delicious_food:
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to the rescue!!!
:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:
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@Gwen-Dragon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@Zalex108 DokTOOOOOOOOOORRRRRR! Daleks!!!!!!
@Gwen-Dragon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@Zalex108 you get and for this
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@TbGbe said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
the wait will not be too long, but sadly we still need a bit more time.
So we will get the next Stable release and then after that a Snapshot with M3 (perhaps) :face_savouring_delicious_food:
Maybe. WIR always is the deciding factor.
Jon.
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Well now that we talk about the RSS feeder as well, will it support .rdf too like for example of this well-known site? https://www.bluesnews.com/ AFAIK not many RSS feeders support the format, or IIRC that of a known competitor.
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@npro said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
Well now that we talk about the RSS feeder as well, will it support .rdf too like for example of this well-known site? https://www.bluesnews.com/ AFAIK not many RSS feeders support the format, or IIRC that of a known competitor.
@npro , we will evaluate the demand moving forward.
Cheers,
Jon. -
@npro Opera 12/M2 did, so that'd be great.
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
Import is sadly not in place. .. and we would rather show you what we got and add import later.
now, seriously!?? the old users are waiting for over 5 years now, so that they can switch and you dont even have an import function from m2!??