Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy
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it's probably a qwant server side problem, it magically worked for few minutes this morning at work, then for the rest of the day nothing else than [] empty responses, also here at home.
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@ian-coog It appears they are undergoing a DDS attack. They sent the Vivaldi devs an email indicating as much.
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I am surprised there was an update that included only a search engine.
I would have though that an update would be held until there is actually have something meaningful to add. Fixing the bookmark bar, where I can't re-arrange bookmarks inside folders, is something that comes to mind. I would think fixes to the UI would take precedence over a search engine.
Mod edit: Cleaned up rude and disrespectful language.
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@ronyxs Stable versions do not, as a rule, receive updates of any kind, except for critical security and show-stopper bugfixes. The unusual thing is not that the update was minor, but that it happened at all.
New features and important changes are made in new versions, not existing versions.
Further, polite and respectful language is a requirement of comments on the Vivaldi blog and forums, so I have cleaned up your comment.
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@ronyxs you can always ask your money back
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@ayespy: an added search engine should be the least significant part of a changelog in an update. It shouldn't be the highlight of an update. When I see a pending update (in any software), I usually expect to see some meaningful changes or things fixed.
Please consider leaving these minor things to bigger updates, and not give the user the false impression or hope that things are being fixed. That's my take on this. -
@ronyxs said in Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy:
I am surprised there was an update that included only a search engine.
Search engines provide at least part of the finance for this free browser. Adding the Quant search engine to Vivaldi 1.15 Final would immediately start bringing in more revenue.
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@ronyxs I can't consider anything with regard to this type of strategy, as I don't work for Vivaldi and have no such input. I'm a volunteer. But I understand your discomfit.
I do know that Vivaldi has been in a negative cash flow position since it began, funded entirely out of the founder's pocket, and that one of their chief sources of income is search agreements. Further, we get a lot of feedback from users pushing the idea that Vivaldi should focus on privacy.
So, if a new version isn't ready yet, but you can increase your income tomorrow by adding a search engine that is responsive to user demand, why not do it? I would.
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@ian-coog: I know. Scheme is a part of URL. Scheme — green, domain — black, path and query — gray. That's what I want. In Vivaldi everything is black now.
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@alexwayfer Make a feature request.
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Added to the side bar and as a search engine. After a few days of use, a detail I love is the fact the results you click on are automatically opened in a new tab. I didn't like to have to use the "right-click - open in a new tab" when using Gogol.
So, thank you Vivaldi team for having added Qwant! -
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@ornorm Or Shift + click. I use it automatically => sometimes in Qwant/DDG. But it's good and I like this system (other domains = new tab; same domain = same tab).
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@zalex108 Thank you. I didn't know it was possible.
But I like the fact it is by default when using Qwant. -
@potmeklecbohdan Thank you for this information. I didn't know this.
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@ornorm said in Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy:
@zalex108 Thank you. I didn't know it was possible.
But I like the fact it is by default when using Qwant.@potmeklecbohdan said in Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy:
@ornorm Or Shift + click. I use it automatically => sometimes in Qwant/DDG. But it's good and I like this system (other domains = new tab; same domain = same tab).
Yes, very comfortable.
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Qwant is not tracking free.
- Open the browser console, networking tab
- switch to XHR
- search for something
- click a result
- See the tracking
Request URL: https://api.qwant.com/api/action/url
Request Method: POST
From data: locale=de_DE&device=desktop&query=test&position=1&t=web&domain=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.de%2F&type=serpSo you think okay lets switch off javascript? Now you need to use lite.qwant.com
https://lite.qwant.com/?q=test&t=webThe result links now look like this:
https://lite.qwant.com/redirect/Dc%2Fezdx4judoXc7MXcpeMBnNHQFGDqJgga694RtRsVw%3D/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.de%2F?position=0&query=test&t=web&l=deThis is nothing special today, google and bing do this as well.
BUT they never claimed to be privacy friendly.TL;DR: Qwant claims to protect your privacy, but does not. Use duckduckgo.
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@allo said in Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy:
Qwant is not tracking free.
Ups!
That's new - at least for me -.
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@allo said in Vivaldi now includes Qwant, a search engine that respects your privacy:
Qwant is not tracking free.
- Open the browser console, networking tab
- switch to XHR
- search for something
- click a result
- See the tracking
Request URL: https://api.qwant.com/api/action/url
Request Method: POST
From data: locale=de_DE&device=desktop&query=test&position=1&t=web&domain=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.de%2F&type=serpSo you think okay lets switch off javascript? Now you need to use lite.qwant.com
https://lite.qwant.com/?q=test&t=webThe result links now look like this:
https://lite.qwant.com/redirect/Dc%2Fezdx4judoXc7MXcpeMBnNHQFGDqJgga694RtRsVw%3D/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.de%2F?position=0&query=test&t=web&l=deThis is nothing special today, google and bing do this as well.
BUT they never claimed to be privacy friendly.TL;DR: Qwant claims to protect your privacy, but does not. Use duckduckgo.
I tried QWant, it's not a bad search engine, but as a private search engine it did not convince me
I will continue with Startpage, which in my opinion is the best with distance -
@catweazle @allo Thanks for sharing this information. I haven't been convinced by Duckduckgo (user interface mainly). By the way, I didn't know Startpage. I will try it right away.