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    • Ayespy
      Ayespy Moderator @greybeard last edited by Ayespy

      @greybeard Menu/settings/preferences/advanced/programs.

      Add protocols http and https. Browse to the .exe of the browser you want them to open in.

      Select it. Press Ok in the dialog. Press Ok in the parent dialog. Done.

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      • jon
        jon Vivaldi Team last edited by

        @Codehunter , what can I tell you. Nothing would please me more than to present M3 to you. It is clearly looking better and better and the team is working really hard to get it out of the door. A number of us have been using it for a long time now and I feel it is already much better than M2. That does not mean there is not work to do and we need to finish a bit more before it is ready for prime time. Rest assured we are doing our best here and we will deliver a great M3. πŸ™‚

        CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi

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        • NoAidee
          NoAidee @jon last edited by

          @jon Great news Jon. Can you or any of the programmers give us a little insight on the progress ? For instance is the POP3 part solved or is it still in an early stage of development or in a more general way a percentage of development [the program is xx% ready] ?

          Thanks in advance, Yatta

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          • jon
            jon Vivaldi Team last edited by

            A lot of stuff is in place and is being improved. Sadly POP3 is still not in. We have focused on other issues, but it is not forgotten and it will get it in there. As part of the work we have been doing, we have made POP3 easier to add as well.

            I guess we are not so eager to talk about things in general. We just want to show it to you and that is what we are working on. The team is focused and the code is improving each and every day. It has come a long way since the early builds. It is faster, smoother and more polished. We just want to polish it a bit more and add the remaining items. πŸ™‚

            CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi

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              Codehunter @Ayespy last edited by

              @ayespy said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

              @greybeard There is a setting in M2 whereby you can instruct it to open all links in (xyz) browser.

              Doesn't help anything if M2 itself is unstable on modern Intel CPUs/IGPUs.

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              • Ayespy
                Ayespy Moderator @Codehunter last edited by

                @codehunter But it's not.

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                • Ayespy
                  Ayespy Moderator @Codehunter last edited by Ayespy

                  @codehunter Not that that matters, because soon we will have M3. Of course one of the things that has to be fixed for me before release is some of its problems on older hardware.

                  By contrast, M2 (or OperaMail if you prefer) runs without difficulty on all 11 machines I own, old and new - from XP to Linux, to Win10. But fear not- I'm confident the team will get M3 running like a hot knife through butter on everything short of XP.

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                  • jon
                    jon Vivaldi Team last edited by

                    Focus on memory and CPU usage has been a major focus for us. We do want M3 to run well on older systems, to the extent possible based on the Chromium codebase. We have been doing a rather major rewrite and that process is going quite well.

                    CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi

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                    • greybeard
                      greybeard - Ambassador - @Codehunter last edited by

                      @codehunter I haven't had an issue with M2 on my new computer using all Intel. What are the issues?

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                        Codehunter @greybeard last edited by Codehunter

                        @greybeard said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

                        @codehunter I haven't had an issue with M2 on my new computer using all Intel. What are the issues?

                        As i described earlier in this thread: Simply crashes instantly with and without user interaction. Closing the main window and show the crash log reporting window. Process Monitor log shows a pattern for most recent action: Intel Graphics Driver. Same issue as described here for another software (PaintShop Pro X and X2). I am a PSP customer too and have a X2 license. So I can say: Same issues for both programs but PSPX2 crashes every time at startup on these machines, OM2 crashes only some times. But Process Monitor shows the same most recent action.

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                        • greybeard
                          greybeard - Ambassador - @Codehunter last edited by

                          @codehunter my system is pretty much off the shelf (more for spreadsheets, databases and theGimp for photos)... possibly why I am not having these issues

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                            Codehunter @greybeard last edited by

                            @greybeard said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

                            @codehunter my system is pretty much off the shelf (more for spreadsheets, databases and theGimp for photos)... possibly why I am not having these issues

                            Running on Linux? I haven't tried this, only Win 10 x64. I think the Intel GFX drivers for Win are really bad with buggy support for older DX. And they don't want to fix that. Those who suffer are the elderly programs like PSPX2 or O12.

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                              Codehunter @jon last edited by

                              @jon said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

                              We have been doing a rather major rewrite and that process is going quite well.

                              Am I right in assuming that this is the main reason for the obviously unplanned delay compared to the announcement of the first Vivaldi Beta back then?

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                                Codehunter last edited by

                                Any news here?

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                                • Motionshot
                                  Motionshot last edited by

                                  Maybe I'm wrong, but could it be that 1.16 will get an experimental version M3? 'Cause 1.16 development is going much slower than usual and the few releases that have been done only contained some bug fixes. So that leads me to think that they're planning something big for one of the next 1.16 snapshots, i.e. M3?

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                                  • Ayespy
                                    Ayespy Moderator @Motionshot last edited by

                                    @motionshot No, sorry. The delay is for other reasons, having to do only with the underlying engine.

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                                    • Motionshot
                                      Motionshot @Ayespy last edited by

                                      @ayespy Okay, thanks! I do hope we'll get some sort of indication soon about M3 πŸ™‚ Not any specifics per se, but it would be nice to get something like "we'll try to get it done before date XYZ" or "in the next 5 months" or something along those lines.

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                                      • luetage
                                        luetage @Motionshot last edited by

                                        @motionshot It's "soon" since end of 2016, I wouldn't hold my breath for a definite date. They will just release it as surprise in snapshot at some point and then we will have to shut up πŸ˜›

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                                        • greybeard
                                          greybeard - Ambassador - last edited by

                                          @gwen-dragon I'll have a ChΓ’teauneuf-du-Pape, withr our meal and thenwe can sit back with a dram of Cardu in the library. πŸ˜‰

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                                            Codehunter last edited by Codehunter

                                            Another month, same question... ? πŸ˜‰

                                            Please excuse me, its very important to me.

                                            EDIT: Sorry I've seen the latest posts after replying.

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