Open letter to Jon concerning M3

jon

Focus on memory and CPU usage has been a major focus for us. We do want M3 to run well on older systems, to the extent possible based on the Chromium codebase. We have been doing a rather major rewrite and that process is going quite well.

greybeard

@codehunter I haven't had an issue with M2 on my new computer using all Intel. What are the issues?

Codehunter

@greybeard said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

@codehunter I haven't had an issue with M2 on my new computer using all Intel. What are the issues?

As i described earlier in this thread: Simply crashes instantly with and without user interaction. Closing the main window and show the crash log reporting window. Process Monitor log shows a pattern for most recent action: Intel Graphics Driver. Same issue as described here for another software (PaintShop Pro X and X2). I am a PSP customer too and have a X2 license. So I can say: Same issues for both programs but PSPX2 crashes every time at startup on these machines, OM2 crashes only some times. But Process Monitor shows the same most recent action.

greybeard

@codehunter my system is pretty much off the shelf (more for spreadsheets, databases and theGimp for photos)... possibly why I am not having these issues

Codehunter

@greybeard said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

@codehunter my system is pretty much off the shelf (more for spreadsheets, databases and theGimp for photos)... possibly why I am not having these issues

Running on Linux? I haven't tried this, only Win 10 x64. I think the Intel GFX drivers for Win are really bad with buggy support for older DX. And they don't want to fix that. Those who suffer are the elderly programs like PSPX2 or O12.

Codehunter

@jon said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

We have been doing a rather major rewrite and that process is going quite well.

Am I right in assuming that this is the main reason for the obviously unplanned delay compared to the announcement of the first Vivaldi Beta back then?

Codehunter

Any news here?

Motionshot

Maybe I'm wrong, but could it be that 1.16 will get an experimental version M3? 'Cause 1.16 development is going much slower than usual and the few releases that have been done only contained some bug fixes. So that leads me to think that they're planning something big for one of the next 1.16 snapshots, i.e. M3?

Ayespy

@motionshot No, sorry. The delay is for other reasons, having to do only with the underlying engine.

Motionshot

@ayespy Okay, thanks! I do hope we'll get some sort of indication soon about M3 Not any specifics per se, but it would be nice to get something like "we'll try to get it done before date XYZ" or "in the next 5 months" or something along those lines.

luetage

@motionshot It's "soon" since end of 2016, I wouldn't hold my breath for a definite date. They will just release it as surprise in snapshot at some point and then we will have to shut up

greybeard

@gwen-dragon I'll have a Châteauneuf-du-Pape, withr our meal and thenwe can sit back with a dram of Cardu in the library.

Codehunter

Another month, same question... ?

Please excuse me, its very important to me.

EDIT: Sorry I've seen the latest posts after replying.

luetage

@codehunter You won't get an answer. They will do a surprise release when it's presentable. It's completely pointless asking developers for a timeline, because they won't dare raising any hopes.

Codehunter

@luetage I think its not senseless to remember the devs for our needings

Pesala

I think the new mail-client needs a name more colourful than M3. That's fine for devs or those familiar with M2, who can know that it is a continuation from the earlier client. How about something connected with the Vivaldi name:

Vivaldi Symphony
Vivaldi Duet
etc.?

Motionshot

@pesala said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

I think the new mail-client needs a name more colourful than M3. That's fine for devs or those familiar with M2, who can know that it is a continuation from the earlier client. How about something connected with the Vivaldi name:

Vivaldi Symphony

Vivaldi Duet

etc.?

That sure would be nice. Although I think M3 is fine as well. Maybe we could keep both names, kinda like how, for example, on GNOME the file manager is now called Files but the repo name and internal name is still Nautilus. So maybe we could give the email client a colorful name but refer to it internally and on the forums as M3?

Blackbird

@pesala I'm kind of partial to Vivaldi Melody... it has a mail-like ring to it.

saudiqbal

Looks like M3 is coming in 2020.

ghpy

@saudiqbal said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

Looks like M3 is coming in 2020.

There will be a joint ceremony for the presentation of M3 and the opening of BER
(for non-Germans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport#Timeline )