Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks
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Wow. I am currently desparately trying to organize my bookmarks. It is really necessary. And I thought, Vivaldi could surely help me with that. Tags are central for this. I cannot organize my bookmarks without them.
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Registered just to bump this thread! FF's bookmark management in general, and tagging specifically, is its killer feature and a big part of why it's still my primary browser. Vivaldi would have a good shot at that spot if properly searchable bookmark tags could be implemented.
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Vote up for this feature too, dont want to lose my tags/taxonomy from Firefox and want to move off of it. Need to have some way also to manage tags so that I can merge tags over time when I forget I have a tag for "car" and create a new one called "auto".
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Dear Vivaldi devs, thank you for all the great work you put into this awesome browser but we desperately need the tags feature, we need our tags to be saved so we can add them (auto-complete) to new bookmarks without having to remember them for ourselves.
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Vote up for "tags system" in bookmarks, this is veri usefull. Bookmark can marked with several tags, "folders system" not enougth.
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@alex238 Vote for the first post if you haven't already done so. (Voting again will remove your vote).
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@alex238
How is the "tags system" different from adding tags to the bookmark's description? (e.g.. #vivaldi #news, etc.) -
@shifte This is described in detail in the original requests, See the first post and the links in it to the original request which predates this whole features request forum.
Basically, real tags would do a lot more than a description text field and it would be nice to use the description as a description rather than as a place to shoehorn in metadata.
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@josephj11
I understand.
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On looking through the most upvoted feature requests, I see that this is currently eighth on the list, but is not even tagged as Nice to Have yet. I assume that it would require a substantial rewrite of the bookmark code and would have far-reaching implications for Sync and Import/Export of bookmarks.
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@pesala Feature request Chinese water torture. LOL
It seems very disrespectful of the Vivaldi team to apparently ignore popular requests. They certainly don't have to implement them, but acknowledging them and giving some response as to their perspective would be the decent thing to do.
The original request was made over six years ago during the early Beta release of Vivaldi. There are probably very few active requests that old.
This would be a great issue to bring up in an AMA, but I'm not aware of anyone in this project who does those.
There are the new release threads, but I have seen posts there saying, stick to the topic - don't ask for anything new.
If the team isn't looking here, exactly how do they decide what to develop next? I think they call it a browser for their friends. Well, friends listen to friends.
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@josephj11 said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
If the team isn't looking here, exactly how do they decide what to develop next?
The answer is simple: the team is looking here. When it comes to developing new features, there are multiple factors that have to be considered - including (but not limited to):
- how many resources would it require?
- how much time will it take?
- will it attract new users?
- how many users will actually use that feature?
- will other aspects require adjusting after implementing it?
- is it a core feature, or just a slight improvement?
- is it more of a necessity or just a "nice to have"?
The feature requests are reviewed on a regular basis, however, the sheer amount of them makes it difficult to do a thorough review of each one of them. The number of votes is considered, but it's not a key factor.
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@pafflick You managed to find the time to comment, but you said nothing about this feature request, and the Tags are unchanged. If Team members regular review feature requests, how many resources does it require to tag them, and post a brief comment, such is "This would take a lot of work to implement, so it does not have a high priority."
There is no need to review them all. Just sort by most votes and review the top requested features. I have done the donkey work for years; but my requests for more feedback have mostly fallen on deaf ears.
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@pesala said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
You managed to find the time to comment
Well, that's what I do here.
@pesala said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
you said nothing about this feature request
Because I didn't have the chance to talk about it with the developers yet. And since I'm not the one turning the requests into features, I can't say how possible it is for this one to be implemented.
But if you want my opinion, I think that while nice to have it, it won't be of much significance to the majority of users. And when you take into account the technical challenges, as well as the fact that the bookmarking feature is already advanced (offering more features than many other browsers), I wouldn't consider working on that in the nearest future.@pesala said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
how many resources does it require to tag them
I'd say "too much" to tag and comment on every single one of them.
@pesala said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
Just sort by most votes and review the top requested features.
But that's exactly what we already do. We let the community decide which ones are the most wanted, and then we take them for review to the developers. Of course, not every reviewed request is going to be tagged - only the ones that are considered as "nice to have" or already added to the "pipeline" (and some may become "will not do"). In regard to the rest, we simply don't have any plans yet.
I haven't participated in the review process yet, but since I'm working with the community, I'll try to get more feedback regarding some of the top requests that haven't been tagged so far.
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@pafflick I was a professional programmer, so I understand the factors you listed and that things that seem simple are often quite difficult to implement and the reverse. At this point it is primarily a question of communication so that we as users feel heard and respected. We can not presume to dictate to the developers what they must do and don't want to.
Yes, I want this feature, but it's more about getting feedback. Even though this one has been quite popular, apparently there are seven or more that are even more desired. These and at least some of the others deserve some feedback.
I don't know if there are any statistics to back me up, but I suspect that only the most engaged users make and vote on feature requests. It would not surprise me if the number of actual users who would want any particular feature request was ten or more times the number who made the effort to post and vote.
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@pafflick Thank you.
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@josephj11 said in Add Searchable Tags for Bookmarks:
I don't know if there are any statistics to back me up, but I suspect that only the most engaged users make and vote on feature requests. It would not surprise me if the number of actual users who would want any particular feature request was ten or more times the number who made the effort to post and vote.
This is precisely why politicians must listen to every letter they receive on any given topic. The ratio varies but the fact is one letter represents the views of many people.
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There are
edit>description and short code
then use f2 -
@regberesford Please elaborate. I don't see the context of this or what it's supposed to accomplish.
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@josephj11 I normally put the searchable tags in the description about the bookmark Image of what i mean and then when i press the F2 button, the ability to search comes up and i can find the relevant bookmark i need. Also Ctrl+d (hit 'd' key twice) i have just seen from a suggestion to me is good and can input the description and search etc the bookmark.
When you are on a page that has been bookmarked in the address bar theres a bookmark icon that turns grey, not quite this symbol but vertical - and if you click that the same Ctrl+d (hit 'd' key twice) box appears. Thats also another entrypoint to that bookmark information window.