Solved Allow hiding the search command from address bar dropdown
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@ckdot Not yet. Sorry.
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It's been a while and I like to ask again if there's a chance this feature will come soon. Is there anything I could do to speed up the progress?
I think that line is superfluous and it bothers me that I always have to press down key twice to jump to the first suggessted address.
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@ckdot No, it is not likely to come soon. Feature requests that are tagged as IN PROGRESS are more likely to come before others.
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Upvoted.
I've been looking to mod this for some time but couldn't find the code in common.css that refers to it. Can't use inspect as right-click causes the dropdown to disappear.
For the average user it's a good addition so they can clearly see that they're choosing a search option.
But i'm with the OP that it's pointless extra button presses that don't offer anything to those that understand what they're doing. For me i know that if i'm typing into the address bar, it'll be a full URL, or part thereof to find in the typed history/bookmarks, if what i want doesn't show up then it's a search.
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Should this ever be implemented in the browser, it needs to be an option. As already mentioned people who have many search engines like this to be certain they have used the correct shortcut. People who want to remove this can do so right now by making a mod.
@7twenty said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Can't use inspect as right-click causes the dropdown to disappear.
Set a break point & use the inspect tool from dev tools, that's how you get transient UI elements to remain visible in both the UI & code.
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@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
As already mentioned people who have many search engines like this to be certain they have used the correct shortcut
The search site favicon shows in the address bar when you use a nickname, so it's really only duplicating the same that's in the address bar. The only extra thing it offers is the header "Search XXXX", which might be worthwhile for some, but it's somewhat superfluous given how it works.
As with a lot of features that could quite possibly be a quickly added solution, the dev's would only need to add an extra option of "Include Search" in the Address field drop down menu settings.
@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Set a break point & use the inspect tool from dev tools, that's how you get transient UI elements to remain visible in both the UI & code.
Thanks for that. Figured it out.
.OmniDropdown-Collection:first-child{ display: none; } -
@7twenty said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
The search site favicon shows in the address bar when you use a nickname, so it's really only duplicating the same that's in the address bar. The only extra thing it offers is the header "Search XXXX", which might be worthwhile for some, but it's somewhat superfluous given how it works.
Nah, it's still important to indicate which search "engine" is being used (I suppose I should have used quotes in the first post). Since users can create their own search engines, there is no guarantee that there will be an associated favicon -- I have some search "engines" that don't have them -- so it's neither duplication nor superfluous.
As with a lot of features that could quite possibly be a quickly added solution, the dev's would only need to add an extra option of "Include Search" in the Address field drop down menu settings.
Yeah, I'm fine with it being added, just wanted to reiterate the importance of the information in the dropdown and that it should be an option since the request isn't in the Settings category for feature requests.
@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Set a break point & use the inspect tool from dev tools, that's how you get transient UI elements to remain visible in both the UI & code.
Thanks for that. Figured it out.
.OmniDropdown-Collection:first-child{ display: none; }Awesome! I'm glad you guys have a working mod now. Don't know if you have already, but maybe post it in the Modifications category & tag the OP, even if he hasn't logged in since the start of the thread maybe he'll get an email notification and can add it to his config.
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Thanks for your answers.
I didn't know that Vivaldi is able to be modified by mods.
Sadly the provided CSS mod is not solving the issue that you need to press the arrow down key twice to select the first suggestion.Probably there's a chance to solve that issue by some JS mod. I did a quick try but my browser.html changes did not have any effect. But thanks for the info.
Still I'd say it would be a good idea to just remove that line by default (or provide an option) - if the default search engine is used. Other browsers are doing it like that too.
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@ckdot said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Sadly the provided CSS mod is not solving the issue that you need to press the arrow down key twice to select the first suggestion.
That's because the first down arrow is removing the autocomplete. If you type a term, let's say "drop" it autocompletes to drop.com. Hitting enter now goes to that address, it doesn't search. Hitting the down arrow and then enter searches the default search engine for drop. Hitting the down arrow twice then goes to whatever you have enabled to display in the dropdown.
However, I figure that if you want a single arrow down to go to some list item, all you would have to do is set that list to be first in the dropdown order in the CSS. Just inspect the dropdown list that you want to be first and then set it's order to be first in the CSS. Doing it this way you could move the Search Engine item below whatever you want it to be below and still have it.
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Actually, there is a deeper bug in here, unrelated to the Search Engine thing... I'm doing some investigation and will file it later tonight. I'll tag you when I do so you can see what's up, but the down arrow thing is unrelated to search, it's far more general. Once this bug is fixed, your CSS should probably work as expected.
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@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Actually, there is a deeper bug in here, unrelated to the Search Engine thing... I'm doing some investigation and will file it later tonight.
Did anything become of this?
EDIT: just did some reading on this. It seems using the display:none css only hides it, but the element is still technically there and actionable in the right situation (key presses for this). To remove it completely it needs to be removed from the DOM, which as i understand it must be done via JS.
I think that is probably well beyond my knowledge.
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I thought it was called "Omnibox"? Which can be used concurrently with the search box?
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it is and it can, but not everyone wants to have their hand held every step of the way.
I don't want to think about "i'm doing a search - i need to go to the search box", when entering a term into the omnibox gives the same outcome.
And following that, because i know that entering a term will automatically become a search with the default search engine on pressing enter, I don't need the UI explicitly showing that. It just leads to extra clutter instead of showing me more handy things like previously typed addresses/bookmarks etc.
No ones saying it shouldn't be there, just to have an option to remove it like there is for bookmarks/previously typed/history etc.
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@7twenty said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
Did anything become of this?
EDIT: just did some reading on this. It seems using the display:none css only hides it, but the element is still technically there and actionable in the right situation (key presses for this). To remove it completely it needs to be removed from the DOM, which as i understand it must be done via JS.
I think that is probably well beyond my knowledge.
Hey, sorry for the slow reply. I fell ill and spent a week on the couch, and then we had out-of-town guests staying at our house. Being ill combined with catching up on work & hosting consumed all my time & energy. I have only been on the forum to read a couple posts but never had enough free time or strength to write or do any work on the browser.
I'm still a little behind with my work, but I'm also catching up on Vivaldi and will hopefully get to this soon... I'll prioritize it on the list of things I want to do with Vivaldi.
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@harrisonchu88 said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
I thought it was called "Omnibox"? Which can be used concurrently with the search box?
Searching in the address bar, or the omnibox if you prefer, can be disabled in the settings. I do this. Some people disable it for privacy reasons, to prevent sending the URLs they're typing to a search engine. I also like to reduce the clutter & speed things up. There are a few checkboxes in the settings that allow the user to choose what types of things will be displayed in the suggestions dropdown. I just do my searches from the search bar.
@7twenty said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
it is and it can, but not everyone wants to have their hand held every step of the way.
Right, and that's why we all love Vivaldi. It's numerous options let users configure the browser to match their preferences.
I don't want to think about "i'm doing a search - i need to go to the search box", when entering a term into the omnibox gives the same outcome.
And I'm the opposite, see above. It's just muscle memory for me to hit my keyboard shortcut before I do a search, or type an address. I don't really think about it. Since I'm going to be using the keyboard to type my search or URL, I don't use the mouse to activate either field. Both keyboard shortcuts are similar, my right hand just hits either the letter K or L after my left has held down the letter D (which is a dual- function key for me, holding D sends a held Ctrl). All 3 are home keys, so I'm instantly ready to type as soon as the address or search field is activated.
And following that, because i know that entering a term will automatically become a search with the default search engine on pressing enter, I don't need the UI explicitly showing that. It just leads to extra clutter instead of showing me more handy things like previously typed addresses/bookmarks etc.
And to me, overloading the address field is clutter. Not having search terms in the address field's dropdown makes it cleaner and provides more room for previously typed addresses or history; and the search field would only show search suggestions (if I had them turned on).
No ones saying it shouldn't be there, just to have an option to remove it like there is for bookmarks/previously typed/history etc.
Wait, are you thinking about disabling the list? Because you can already do that in the search settings. This request is to remove a static item from that list: "Search <EngineName>". That item is similar to the "Typed" or "History" list items, which cannot be removed. Currently, search is on parity with bookmarks/previously typed/history -- actually it's got a little more functionality. Where you can remove the search list just like the others, or you can remove it unless you use a search engine nickname -- using a nickname would make the search suggestions appear.
And, actually, I think the OP's request has been implemented (at least partially). I just turned on search suggestions in the address field, and when I press the down arrow key it immediately goes to the first suggestion, although the text list item is still there.
Can you test again? I have DuckDuckGo set as my default engine, and actually Google's suggestions won't work for me at the moment as I have some rather strict restrictions on that domain right now. I can probably test tomorrow night or the next day, but it'll require punching a temporary hole in some of my security configs. With DDG, instead of "Search Google" it reads "Suggestions", however, the down arrow key goes immediately to the first suggestion. When testing Google, I don't get suggestions for the reason above, but the down arrow key does skip over the "Search Google" line and lands on my search term with one key press.
So, although there is still the additional line there, in terms of using it, you no longer have an unnecessary key press to skip over that line. At least on my end with the latest version.
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@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
This request is to remove a static item from that list: "Search <EngineName>". That item is similar to the "Typed" or "History" list items, which cannot be removed.
Exactly, this item as shown in the OP image, being the title "Search Google" and the search term "preside".
The search suggestions are not related to this request and can already be removed via options.
The equivalent option would be the addition of "Include Search term in dropdown" in the addressbar options to show/hide that section as it does for the others:
As stated previously, the mod does exactly what is required (hides the elements), except that when accessing the dropdown using a keyboard the cursor doesn't jump to the next showing section (suggestions as shown in the OP), but disappears as it's highlighting the hidden element.
Note this is using 2.8 stable. If there have been changes in any snapshots since, then i'm unaware of how the mod affects it.
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@7twenty said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google"
Note this is using 2.8 stable. If there have been changes in any snapshots since, then i'm unaware of how the mod affects it.
2.8 is old, I'm not using the snapshots, 2.9 is the latest, actually, I think we're on like the 3rd patch release of the 2.9 minor version. I'm currently running:
Vivaldi 2.9.1705.41 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision ce637bfd730e6b2e549bf8def38f849e1a26bd3b
OS Windows 10 OS Version 1909 (Build 18363.476)
PS - Sorry for my confusion. It's been a couple weeks since I've looked at this stuff and without having any suggestions from Google I wasn't able to visually compare the two engines.
Though, it probably makes sense to have the checkbox for the search term on the search settings page where the checkbox is to remove the search suggestions.
As for the mod, I'm not using it since I don't search in the address bar, but I recall the behavior from when we first created it. Implementing it in JS instead of CSS would probably allow removing it, rather than hiding it. That would likely solve the extra key press issue. We already know the selectors to target it, so it shouldn't be too much work. I bet the folks in the mod category could whip up a solution rather quickly, when they've got the time. Unless this approach has already been considered and found lacking.
I need to get some rest, but I'll take a look hopefully tomorrow evening. But those folks who have already released several mods are better at JS than I.
I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.
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For those who use several search engines in Vivaldi, the 'Search with ......' information is not useless. So you know which search engine is active (Search Startpage, Wikipedia, Mojeek, Internet Archive, Wolfram Alpha, etc.)
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@bonetone said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
2.8 is old,
My bad, it's actually 2.9 stable. Not sure where the 2.8 came from.
Have updated the thread in the mod forum asking about making it JS.
@Catweazle said in Address Bar Search: Remove "Search Google":
For those who use several search engines in Vivaldi, the 'Search with ......' information is not useless.
I understand that, and the reason why it's being requested an option along with the every other element that is shown in the addressbar dropdown.
It seems odd, we'll give you options to enable/disable everything else in the dropdown... but this one. Almost seems like an oversight it's that odd.
For me having the favicon show in the addressbar when typing the nick is enough to show what i'm searching with. Although there was mention that it may not always be enough depending on how elaborately your searches are set up. But again, that's why as an option along with typed/bookmarks etc.. it makes sense.
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I do not get this ussue using the latest snapshot:
Vivaldi 2.9.1719.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Revision 0bbda18d637cc31f12e9df6266970be481af3826
OS Windows 10 OS Version 1903 (Build 18362.476)Also I have deleted google from my available search engines and use the Settings below:
