Save Opened files in Temporary Folder
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Totally agree. This is the only thing I currently miss in Vivaldi.
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With over 2,900 feature requests, and a small team, those needed by few users or difficult to implement may have to wait for a long time. Wherever you see that a feature is tagged as In Progress, it may get done this year rather than next.
@Christoph142 said in Save Opened files in Temporary Folder:
@molnart This is actually exactly what it is. The Chromium download system is very complex in determining these paths (e.g. by extensions) and altering it may open up security vulnerabilities. So it really needs a very careful hand there. That doesn't mean devs aren't looking into it...
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Funny. I would think of getting vivaldi to simply open (and not save) eg pdf before opening, rather than save them before when asked to open would be a fix, not an added feature.
Admittedly I haven't been paying attention to requests as a whole so missed the swell of asks for the new 'black and blue color theme" or the new "custom private browsing theme" option.
my guess is that new features, some cool sounding, that may bring new users is a priority over responding to fixes for current users. New users won't know about flaws in some of the current features till they have already spent time with vivaldi, and perhaps won't even be using the current features that need more work.
Microsoft has always used this approach in software development.
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@astro46 Well, it's impossible to open a PDF without downloading it - and while most browsers save in the Temp directory, the Chromium engine is designed to save it in the Downloads directory, which it turns out is a really, really, really difficult thing to redesign without breaking a bunch of stuff. On the other hand, there were multiple requests for a default "different" private theme, and that was quite doable. Sometimes something takes a long time because it is hard.
That said, new features and options do attract eyeballs, and without new eyeballs, Vivaldi is dead. So....
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@Ayespy off topic: one new feature is 'break mode' which blanks all windows on screen. i don't get it. why not just close the browser if you don't want to be distracted/take a break?
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@astro46 It pauses everything with a single click and no need to reload the browser to pick up exactly where you left off. On some slower machines especially, this would be a godsend. This rig loads Vivaldi in 3 seconds - but I have some that take 40 seconds or more. And then you would have to re-find you position on the page, your spot in the video, or whatever else was relevant to the time you shut down. And if you have to reload the tab you were using, it could be the content you were in the middle of is no longer there. The "break mode" button effectively freezes time.
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It's official, Microsoft Edge has this feature before Vivaldi.
Despite Vivaldi users initially requesting it long before Edge users did (mostly because original Edge had the functionality, and it was only temporarily lost in the transition to chromium-based Edge).
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@ukanuk Compare the number of developers (literally in the thousands) at MS to the number at Vivaldi (fewer than 30). What do you see?
That said, they managed to move downloads to the Temp directory. Which of the other Vivaldi features have they matched or outpaced?
Just wondering.
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@Ayespy At the end of the day, I'm not going to complain too much about a free product. I'm happy there's a team of developers dedicated to making a better browser and trying some different things, and I'm happy they created forums to voice our thoughts and share our vision for Vivaldi.
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Another workaround.
vivaldi://settings/downloads/
Download Location
Select your favorite temporary folder.
On Ubuntu for example we can choose this folder: /tmp
or /home/administrator/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default/blob_storage
Inside blob_storage there is a folder that changes its name for each Vivaldi session.
Example: 6cdcse27-h735-4df1-38kv-a5909c3pb241
By putting the opened files inside these blob_storage folders we are sure that the next time Vivaldi is restarted they will be deleted.
Save Files to Default Location Without Asking must be deselected.
Open chrome://settings/downloads on Vivaldi and activate Ask where to save each file before downloading
Now when you click on Open in the download dialog you can choose where to place these files.
By clicking Save you can easily select the default Downloads folder of the operating system.
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@claudio said in Save Opened files in Temporary Folder:
On Ubuntu for example we can choose this folder: /home/administrator/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default/blob_storage
Inside blob_storage there is a folder that changes its name for each Vivaldi session.
Example: 6cdcse27-h735-4df1-38kv-a5909c3pb241
By putting the opened files inside these folders we are sure that the next time Vivaldi is restarted they will be deleted.Or set the download folder to %temp% ? Gets automagically cleaned during routine maintenance (cron / systemd timers and/or reboot).
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I wonder how many more years it will take to fix this popular issue?
I love Vivaldi but this is by far the most annoying feature.
Best wishes to all
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@apel It is not tagged as In Progress yet, which probably means it won't happen this year.
Related issue Support for MIME Types also has a lot of votes, but is still not in progress.
Too much to do and not enough to do it all.
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Not sure if developers actually read forum posts, but maybe they can copy the code from this fork of chrome that I used for a long time:
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@slydog3333 Is this software which can be used a commercial one? I can not find any license hints on web page.
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I want this behavior to be address. It have to and should already been done. Every files we hope to open should be directed to Vivaldi's temporary folder. At least, an option should allow it in Vivaldi's settings. It renders my download folder cumbersome and it's my worst disappointment about Vivaldi. I don't understand why it hasn't been corrected because it must annoy many users... I believe.
Is it that hard to do? It doesn't look that complicated : saving files that are opened instead of saved to %temp%\vivaldi and the saved ones to where they should. Even if it came from Chromium, why stick with it? Can Vivaldi's devs explain it, please. -
@jseb
I hope that your comment gets a useful response, and better, a fix.However, more likely this issue, as well a few other vivaldi features, started but not really developed are in the category "the person who wanted to do it, left, and no one else cares that much". The devs clearly have had time to work on other features, which get added with each new edition. Perhaps if "opened files" could be combined with shiny new colors they would be interested.
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@astro46 You make me worry about future Vivaldi's development... I hope it won't slows down. I like it, but browsers are such a important part in computers usage that it's one of my top priority for security and efficiency. So if Vivaldi ends up beaten, I will switch to better solution as I've done with my long loved Firefox when it begun having more compatibility issues with many websites.
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@jseb @astro46 You can read my workaround earlier in this thread at https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/253345. That way any files you click "Open" on will be saved in
%temp%/Vivaldi
, and if you actually care to save a file you can use Save As and pick your Downloads directory or something else.It's a workaround and it's annoying the setting isn't synced and you can't actually use
%temp%
in the directory name, but once you set it, it stays good for that install.It does get more annoying as the years march on though and we see other features come out that seem pointless to you and me personally. I totally empathize with that. I know Vivaldi devs aren't slowing development anytime soon, it's just their priorities often don't align directly with forum priorities. They are providing a free product and have to still fund it somehow (mostly through search engine deals I believe), so I try not to complain too much.
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@ukanuk Yes, I'm using this workaround. But as you, I think it's a workaround, not what Vivaldi should do with a basic limitation like this one. It isn't stand their level of software to me.
Have a nice day!