Save Opened files in Temporary Folder

molnart

@Christoph142 thanks for the explanation, i hope with microsofts help this can be addressed rather sooner than later. i still can't understand how people can live with this limitation and using chrome happily...

jeffprater

I just posted a question about this here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/47378/is-there-a-way-for-vivaldi-to-open-files-directly-instead-of-downloading-them

I work with Citrix regularly and when opening a Citrix application from the browser, it sends an ICA file. Now on Firefox and IE, I can just click Open and it just saves the file to a temporary location and opens the file. However, with Vivaldi, I end up with 20 ICA files in my Downloads folder at the end of the day. Sure would be nice if Open meant "save to a temporary location and open". Maybe include a "Save and Open" button which does the current behavior of downloading the file to the Downloads folder then opening the file, then a "Open" button which saves the file to a temp location and opens it.

pedrosilva

Upvoting this feature request and commenting here that Advanced Chrome (https://browser.taokaizen.com) manages downloads the desired (and to me as well, the optimal) way:

Download Shelf that allows the following options:
Save: Downloads to default folder or prompts user for location.
Open: Downloads to temp folder and opens download when finish.
Discard: Cancel download.
Up to 999 downloads can be handled at the same time, they will stack and wait for user action.

Therefore it is certainly not impossible and apparently not that difficult to override Chromium default behavior.
Source code available https://browser.taokaizen.com/download/patch.txt

Hope this request gets the required attention and look forward to see this improvement implemented.

TsunamiZ

@pedrosilva

it would be helpful to also show the screenshot of Advanced Chrome's "Download Shelf" feature...

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molnart

@Gwen-Dragon said in Save Opened files in Temporary Folder:

I reported that as a request in Vivaldi bug tracker:
VB-68172 "Patch for better download"

Is there any relevant update in the bugtrucker on this request?

ukanuk

Looks like Microsoft Edge now has this feature in their beta builds, see discussion at https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/discussions/good-news-the-new-downloads-ui-asks-to-whether-open-or-save-the/m-p/1602206

pedrosilva

Bumping, any news? This would be a great add to Vivaldi.

JevgeniM

@pedrosilva

Totally agree. This is the only thing I currently miss in Vivaldi.

Pesala

With over 2,900 feature requests, and a small team, those needed by few users or difficult to implement may have to wait for a long time. Wherever you see that a feature is tagged as In Progress, it may get done this year rather than next.

@Christoph142 said in Save Opened files in Temporary Folder:

@molnart This is actually exactly what it is. The Chromium download system is very complex in determining these paths (e.g. by extensions) and altering it may open up security vulnerabilities. So it really needs a very careful hand there. That doesn't mean devs aren't looking into it...

astro46

Funny. I would think of getting vivaldi to simply open (and not save) eg pdf before opening, rather than save them before when asked to open would be a fix, not an added feature.

Admittedly I haven't been paying attention to requests as a whole so missed the swell of asks for the new 'black and blue color theme" or the new "custom private browsing theme" option.

my guess is that new features, some cool sounding, that may bring new users is a priority over responding to fixes for current users. New users won't know about flaws in some of the current features till they have already spent time with vivaldi, and perhaps won't even be using the current features that need more work.

Microsoft has always used this approach in software development.

Ayespy

@astro46 Well, it's impossible to open a PDF without downloading it - and while most browsers save in the Temp directory, the Chromium engine is designed to save it in the Downloads directory, which it turns out is a really, really, really difficult thing to redesign without breaking a bunch of stuff. On the other hand, there were multiple requests for a default "different" private theme, and that was quite doable. Sometimes something takes a long time because it is hard.

That said, new features and options do attract eyeballs, and without new eyeballs, Vivaldi is dead. So....

astro46

@Ayespy off topic: one new feature is 'break mode' which blanks all windows on screen. i don't get it. why not just close the browser if you don't want to be distracted/take a break?

Ayespy

@astro46 It pauses everything with a single click and no need to reload the browser to pick up exactly where you left off. On some slower machines especially, this would be a godsend. This rig loads Vivaldi in 3 seconds - but I have some that take 40 seconds or more. And then you would have to re-find you position on the page, your spot in the video, or whatever else was relevant to the time you shut down. And if you have to reload the tab you were using, it could be the content you were in the middle of is no longer there. The "break mode" button effectively freezes time.

ukanuk

It's official, Microsoft Edge has this feature before Vivaldi.

Despite Vivaldi users initially requesting it long before Edge users did (mostly because original Edge had the functionality, and it was only temporarily lost in the transition to chromium-based Edge).

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/announcing-the-open-save-as-save-and-delete-prompts-for/m-p/1646951

Ayespy

@ukanuk Compare the number of developers (literally in the thousands) at MS to the number at Vivaldi (fewer than 30). What do you see?

That said, they managed to move downloads to the Temp directory. Which of the other Vivaldi features have they matched or outpaced?

Just wondering.

ukanuk

@Ayespy At the end of the day, I'm not going to complain too much about a free product. I'm happy there's a team of developers dedicated to making a better browser and trying some different things, and I'm happy they created forums to voice our thoughts and share our vision for Vivaldi.

claudio

Another workaround.
vivaldi://settings/downloads/
Download Location
Select your favorite temporary folder.
On Ubuntu for example we can choose this folder: /tmp
or /home/administrator/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default/blob_storage
Inside blob_storage there is a folder that changes its name for each Vivaldi session.
Example: 6cdcse27-h735-4df1-38kv-a5909c3pb241
By putting the opened files inside these blob_storage folders we are sure that the next time Vivaldi is restarted they will be deleted.
Save Files to Default Location Without Asking must be deselected.
Open chrome://settings/downloads on Vivaldi and activate Ask where to save each file before downloading
Now when you click on Open in the download dialog you can choose where to place these files.
By clicking Save you can easily select the default Downloads folder of the operating system.
Better than nothing.

samuvuo

@claudio said in Save Opened files in Temporary Folder:

On Ubuntu for example we can choose this folder: /home/administrator/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default/blob_storage
Inside blob_storage there is a folder that changes its name for each Vivaldi session.
Example: 6cdcse27-h735-4df1-38kv-a5909c3pb241
By putting the opened files inside these folders we are sure that the next time Vivaldi is restarted they will be deleted.

Or set the download folder to %temp% ? Gets automagically cleaned during routine maintenance (cron / systemd timers and/or reboot).

apel

I wonder how many more years it will take to fix this popular issue?

I love Vivaldi but this is by far the most annoying feature.

Best wishes to all

Pesala

@apel It is not tagged as In Progress yet, which probably means it won't happen this year.

Related issue Support for MIME Types also has a lot of votes, but is still not in progress.

Too much to do and not enough to do it all.