remove ALT shortcut

alxgvr

I often switch to russian keyboard layut. I use tandart ALT+SHIFT for that. When I press ALT Vivaldi menu opens. It annoys me. In shortcuts menu set to ALP+P.

I want to ask to remove ALT shortcut connected to Menu by default. It may confuse new users, who use different keyboard layouts.

pafflick

You seem to be suffering from the same issue as described here. But I don't know what are you guys doing wrong with the keyboard that the Vivaldi menu appears. Here's how it works on my PC: as long as I press the [ALT] key, the menu won't appear. It appears only on key release. But if I use the shortcut (such as [ALT]+[SHIFT]), the menu won't appear either, after releasing those keys (no matter which one is released first)...

You must be releasing the [ALT] key before actually pressing the [SHIFT] key - otherwise, I don't know why does it behave like that on your PC. The only workaround I found is to switch to the Horizontal Menu in vivaldi://settings/appearance/ but this takes up some vertical space and thus it might not be a perfect solution...

EDIT: I've just changed the settings of the Windows language bar hot keys to switch between several keyboard layouts using the [ALT]+[SHIFT] keys and I'm still unable to reproduce the issue. I'm using Vivaldi 1.7.735.46 (32-bit) on Windows 10 x64.

Pesala

@alxgvr said in remove ALT shortcut:

When I press ALT Vivaldi menu opens.

Actually, it does not. When you release the Alt key the menu opens. If you press Alt + Shift, the menu does not open.

In all programs, Alt is reserved for menus, but Vivaldi allows you to assign Alt + Key shortcuts to any commands. If you do that, you won't then be able to open the menus with the same shortcuts.

For example, in English, Alt + F opens the file menu, but if I assign Alt + F to Find in Page, the menu will no longer open with Alt + F. However, it will always open with Alt, then release Alt. I think there is nothing you can do about that, and nor should it be possible.

igorgl

@Pesala said in remove ALT shortcut:

Actually, it does not. When you release the Alt key the menu opens. If you press Alt + Shift, the menu does not open.

if Alt is released before Shift the menu is opened

reported as VB-48410

igorgl

looks like a bug in the 'Alt key for Menu' setting state. The actual state of the feature does not presented on UI correctly.

I had the unchecked state of the setting as an initial state. After i checked it and then unchecked the issue is resolved.

Hope at least the stored passwords are not uploaded to public host just because the devs didn't test the feature.
cc @jane-n

Komposten

@igorgl
I could not get the menu to open by pressing Alt+Shift, regardless of which key I released first.

The second thing you mention, though, about "Alt key for Menu" happened to me too. It was unchecked by default, but behaved as if it was checked.

jane.n

Hey, guys.
You can enable/disable the ALT menu in Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Alt Key for Main Menu. Just tested and it works as expected.

Komposten

@jane-n Just tested in my second, fresh installation. Alt Key for Main Menu works as expected, so the issue I had above (Alt working even though the setting was off) must have been a remnant from updating from an older version of Vivaldi (where that setting did not exist).

iAN CooG

The setting for Alt Key is not kept ticked on Vivaldi Restart, it's always shown unticked even if it was. Internally is seen active or inactive correctly as it was set previously, but still should reflect the actual state of the setting.
I'm on Vivaldi Snapshot 2.3.1430.4

iAN CooG

@Gwen-Dragon done, I'll update with the VB number asap.
edit: VB-48426

RichardDick

You can use the Windows + Space keyboard shortcut as a workaround.