Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36
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@ian-coog: I tried before posting, it's still the same here on Windows 8.1 x64 with the 64 Bit version of Vivaldi and this snapshot as it was before - ads all over the place.
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@dleon: I have no idea where or how to do that. The settings panel has no such options that I could see. I read above comments but didn't get any wiser?
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Another history panel bug:
Had "All History" automatically selected when opened the panel for the first time today, but the latest date started to show sites from yesterday instead of today.
I had to re-select "All History" again to refresh it to show sites from today first.
There was this other weird bug I can't seem to reproduce, that only happened once. I tried middle-clicking a link in the middle of the list, and it opened up the site at the top of the list. Both sites were highlighted and selected, and I tried selecting another site to draw focus away from the site I didn't want to select, and it just highlighted that site plus another the same distance above on the list. It was the weirdest thing. I can't seem to reproduce it this time, though. It was just a one-time thing.
Also, in "History in the Making" page, Vivaldi should remember my selection of "Everything" in Clear Browsing Data. I have to select it manually every single time, unlike Chromium's history page, which remembers my selection. I also would like it to remember my selection of what to clear in Everything, such as just cache only. -
@dLeon said in Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36:
That browser sniff-ing still a common practice. The idea now is however to overcome browsers problems. Using it to purposely break things eventually will be found, and a torch/fork will be raise.
@Ayespy said in Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36:
@rseiler: The bad kind of browser-sniffing, of "feed broken code to any user agent I don't EXACTLY recognize" still exists.
A couple things occurred to me when thinking about this. First, some other Chromium-based browsers that I have on the side, like Cent and Slimjet, don't alter the string.
New Opera does (and the page doesn't break in it, which is interesting, if the site is doing what @Ayespy mentioned), but maybe that's just because they did it in the past. They HAD to do it in the past, since Opera's everything was fundamentally different from every other browser and it sometimes needed accommodations on the server side.
But that's no longer the case with basing on Chromium. Is Vivaldi modifying the string actually a net plus or minus? I can't draw conclusions based on one site, but I'm not seeing how this could ever help, only hurt.
I hope it's not a matter of trying to boost Vivaldi's presence in server logs in order to try to create some kind of critical mass so that Web sites start paying attention to the little guy. That's a losing battle, as we know from history, and more to the point, it's also unnecessary now.
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@dleon: thanks, I never use these chromium settings normally, so that was the missing link. Still feels a bit messy overall, not exactly sure why .com and .net need to be used - I'd be fine with just one of them or both pointing at the same structure...
But it works now.Since there was no response to the Flash question, I now once again uninstalled Flash from my system. Not sure how it always returns...
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@rseiler: Accurate global user stats are important for financial reasons. That's impossible without one's own user agent string.
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@ThomasHelzle There is a workaround which I use in the current Stable release: I open the page first and when it loads, I add the bookmark to my SD using the bookmark ribbon (
[CTRL]
+[D]
). This way I'm able to add SD items with thumbnails generated after the page was loaded (meaning they have no ads if I blocked them). -
@rseiler said in Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36:
I hope it's not a matter of trying to boost Vivaldi's presence in server logs in order to try to create some kind of critical mass so that Web sites start paying attention to the little guy. That's a losing battle, as we know from history, and more to the point, it's also unnecessary now.
Should you know anything about web development, you'd know how silly your suspicion sounds...
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@dLeon This new system is such a mess, I think I stay away for a while until this is workable.
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@ThomasHelzle said in Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36:
But my main problem for a couple of releases is, that I can't disable Flash on the plugins page and have it remember that state. Each time I restart Vivaldi, Flash is enabled again.
Why don't you block Flash on the chrome://settings/content page? This way you can choose on every website which uses Flash whether you want to launch that content or not...
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@pafflick Ok, thanks for the hint, but IMO this needs to be fixed at the root. If I want that stuff blocked for security and sanity reasons, Vivaldi should respect it in all of it's windows and pageloads, otherwise it opens itself up to breaches of privacy and security. Ads no longer are just a nuisance these days...
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Hello!
Have been away for a long time and I see that Vivaldi is shaping very very nice and it's going to be my major browser very very soon. However there is one thing that has not been fixed (yet I hope) that prevents me from switching: If you open tabs to the background from sites that have a dark layout and you wait for them to load, the moment you access them a short white blink appears. This is very hurtful for my eyes especially when browsing at night. This problem does not exist in Firefox, I think Chrome has it, and if I remember correctly Opera has managed to fix it.Cheers!
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@ThomasHelzle This might be an upstream bug from Chromium, but nevertheless, you should report it if you know how to reproduce it.
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@npro This has been already reported as a feature request but it didn't get too many votes...
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@pafflick works perfectly this way, nice workaround. One can click the SD link he wants to refresh with a ad-less thumbnail, delete the SD, bookmark it again in the SD, and it's there. Sometimes i got a black thumb for it, but once clicked again to reload the page, the thumb was there clean from ads.
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@steffie: You're a hell of a lot cleverer than I am Steffie! I still haven't the faintest idea where to find this setting. Is it something outside Vivaldi? Should I just admit I'm an ignoramus and push off to the forum and hang around there?
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@Ayespy said in Vivaldi 1.7RC 1 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.7.735.36:
@rseiler: Accurate global user stats are important for financial reasons. That's impossible without one's own user agent string.
How does that work, perhaps tying into ad networks somehow? I knew of the referral string in Bing search (and one other search engine, I believe), but hadn't heard of site statistics--beyond those sites, presumably--mattering.
I do recall the other things that you mentioned here.
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@rseiler: Global use statistics are fundamental to how much you can charge people to include their shortcuts, links, icons, etc. in the default home page of every new instance of the browser that is downloaded.
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@pafflick: Keeping in mind, of course, that for whatever reason, the vast majority have no login issue, the most who do, seem to be using a blocker of some kind.