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    • Woife
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      Woife @mib2berlin
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      @mib2berlin

      Hi,
      I can confirm the issues mentioned in this thread.

      I would say it started around 2-3 weeks ago - only with AdGuard being enabled and with opening it in new tabs.
      I tried every possible method mentioned in this thread: still something is going on between Vivaldi and AdGuard.

      As a workaround, I use uBlock Origin Lite - but that's not a substitute for AdGuard.
      If you need further information, please let me know, I will gladly provide more information.

      My system: Windows 11 Pro 24H2 with latest updates, Vivaldi 7.1.3570.54

      ahfgeienlihckogmohjhadlkjgocpleb : Web Store : version 0_2
      ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh : uBlock Origin Lite : version 2025_2_19_775
      enamippconapkdmgfgjchkhakpfinmaj : DeArrow - Bessere Titel und Thumbnails auf YouTube : version 2_0_1
      gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi : Return YouTube Dislike : version 3_0_0_18
      ginkajgcbeolbiflkjomlkcdapbegaff : Binnen-I be gone : version 3_1_1
      jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah : Vivaldi Picture-In-Picture : version 1_0
      jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp : Youtube-shorts block : version 1_5_3
      lglfeioladcfajpjdnghbfgohdihdnfl : Vivaldi Theme Store : version 1_0
      mhjfbmdgcfjbbpaeojofohoefgiehjai : Chromium PDF Viewer : version 1
      mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone : SponsorBlock für YouTube – Überspringe gesponserte Videosegmente : version 5_11_5
      mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli : Vivaldi : version 40037_26426_54062_31960
      mppflflkbbafeopeoeigkbbdjdbeifni : Popup my Bookmarks : version 8_1_1
      nkeimhogjdpnpccoofpliimaahmaaome : Google Hangouts : version 1_3_22
      ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle : Enhancer for YouTube™ : version 3_0_6
      

      Kind regards,
      Woife

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      • PanPuszek
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        PanPuszek
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        Hey @Woife!

        I'm sorry that you experience the same issue (and a bit happy that I'm not the only one 😅).

        I've just did another test, on another machine, on completely different, independent network. I can reproduce this issue consistently throughout all the devices. To sum up:

        • I have tried this on 3 physical machines and 1 virtual, on 2 distinct networks.
        • In every case, opening new links in new backgroud tabs resulted in Adguard not loading immediately. It only works after a refresh.
        • The only way to make it work correctly is by using start vivaldi --disable-vivaldi command.
        • This happens regardless of browser and / or system settings, as it happened on both, fresh and already in-use OSes, and on freshly installed and in-use and tweaked Vivaldi browsers.

        At this point I think we should change the topic of this thread to "Adguard not loading when opening links in a new tab", as when I was starting it, I didn't have full picture of the problem, though I don't think it's possible to change it now.

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          Heidifliess
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          Hi Team!
          I'm having extension issues with email trackers, that I assume are built for Chrome, and they don't function.
          Mail meteor and EngageBay I the ones I've tried.
          I really don't want to flip back to using Chrome to get these to work (🥲) - as they're so helpful to my business.
          Any ideas?
          (I'm quite code / digitally challenged - I warn you up front)

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          • Woife
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            Woife @PanPuszek
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            @PanPuszek

            Hi PanPuszek,

            I have just tested the current Vivaldi release 7.2.3621.63 and latest AdGuard 5.0.210.
            Result: nothing has changed. AdGuard is still not loading when opening links in new tabs.

            May I ask you if you can confirm it? Nevertheless I reported the bug.

            Kind regards,
            Woife

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            • mib2berlin
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              mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
              last edited by

              @Woife
              Hi again, I lost the track of this, sorry.
              Please add the bug number from the confirmation mail, I will try again to reproduce it and if I can confirm the report.

              Cheers, mib

              Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
              HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
              Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
              Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                Woife @mib2berlin
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                @mib2berlin

                Hi,
                no problem. The bug number is VB-115100.

                Kind regards,
                Woife

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                • mib2berlin
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                  mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
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                  @Woife
                  I still cant reproduce it, clean profile, only the AdGuard extension.
                  I bet other extensions cause this, can you provide yours?
                  Open vivaldi://system, expand extensions and copy/paste here.
                  Select the text and use </> to mark it as code.
                  Maybe @PanPuszek can do the same and you can compare your extensions.
                  The best is to create a new second profile and test it there.

                  Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                  HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                  Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                  Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                    DoctorG Soprano
                    last edited by DoctorG

                    deleted, wrong forum.

                    _bug hunter · Volunteer helper · Sopranos tester · Language DE,EN · ♀👵
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                    • Woife
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                      Woife @mib2berlin
                      last edited by

                      @mib2berlin

                      My system: Windows 11 Pro 24H2 with latest updates, Vivaldi 7.2.3621.63

                      ahfgeienlihckogmohjhadlkjgocpleb : Web Store : version 0_2
                      bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg : AdGuard Werbeblocker : version 5_0_210
                      enamippconapkdmgfgjchkhakpfinmaj : DeArrow - Bessere Titel und Thumbnails auf YouTube : version 2_0_5
                      gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi : Return YouTube Dislike : version 3_0_0_18
                      ginkajgcbeolbiflkjomlkcdapbegaff : Binnen-I be gone : version 3_1_1
                      jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah : Vivaldi Picture-In-Picture : version 1_0
                      jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp : Youtube-shorts block : version 1_5_3
                      lglfeioladcfajpjdnghbfgohdihdnfl : Vivaldi Theme Store : version 1_0
                      mhjfbmdgcfjbbpaeojofohoefgiehjai : Chromium PDF Viewer : version 1
                      mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone : SponsorBlock für YouTube – Überspringe gesponserte Videosegmente : version 5_11_8
                      mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli : Vivaldi : version 55516_55693_62175_50440
                      mppflflkbbafeopeoeigkbbdjdbeifni : Popup my Bookmarks : version 8_1_1
                      nkeimhogjdpnpccoofpliimaahmaaome : Google Hangouts : version 1_3_23
                      ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle : Enhancer for YouTube™ : version 3_0_6
                      

                      I tested it again.

                      Disabling all extensions except AdGuard: no change - AdGuard is not loading in new tabs.
                      Creating a new clean profile with AdGuard as the only extension (and default settings): no change - AdGuard is not loading in new tabs.

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                      • mib2berlin
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                        mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
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                        @Woife
                        Hm, no idea then but I cant confirm the report.
                        Other testers and developers test reports anyway, may one can reproduce it.

                        Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                        HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                        Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                        Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                        • mib2berlin
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                          mib2berlin Soprano
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                          @Woife @PanPuszek
                          Can you add your hardware specs, @DoctorG mentioned in the report about a race condition.
                          I have an old laptop but a fast SSD on all devices, specs in my signature.

                          Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                          HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                          Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                          Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                          • Woife
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                            Woife @mib2berlin
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                            @mib2berlin

                            Further testing of Chromium-based browsers with new clean profiles and AdGuard as the only extension:

                            Microsoft Edge 134.0.3124.72: AdGuard is working in new tabs.
                            Portable Chrome 134.0.6998.89: AdGuard is working in new tabs.
                            Portable Opera 117.0.5408.93: AdGuard is working in new tabs.

                            CPU:           AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (Vermeer, VMR-B2)
                                           3700 MHz (37.00x100.0) @ 4841 MHz (48.50x99.8)
                            Motherboard:   ASRock B550M PG Riptide
                            BIOS:          P3.40, 01/18/2024
                            Chipset:       AMD B550 (Promontory PROM19 C/C1)
                            Memory:        32768 MBytes @ 1597 MHz, 16-18-18-36
                                           - 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - Crucial Technology BL8G32C16U4B.8FE
                                           - 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - Crucial Technology BL8G32C16U4B.8FE
                                           - 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - Crucial Technology BL8G32C16U4B.8FE
                                           - 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - Crucial Technology BL8G32C16U4B.8FE
                            Graphics:      Palit RTX 4070
                                           NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070, 12282 MB GDDR6X SDRAM
                            Drive:         Samsung SSD 870 QVO 2TB, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
                            Drive:         WD_BLACK SN850X HS 1000GB, 976.8 GB, NVMe
                            Drive:         Lexar SSD NM790 2TB, 2000.4 GB, NVMe
                            Drive:         ASUS BW-16D1HT, BD-RE
                            Sound:         NVIDIA AD104 - High Definition Audio Controller
                            Sound:         AMD Family 17h/19h - HD Audio Controller
                            Network:       RealTek Semiconductor RTL8125 Gaming 2.5GbE Family Ethernet Controller
                            OS:            Microsoft Windows 11 Professional (x64) Build 26100.3476 (24H2)
                            
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                              mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
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                              @Woife
                              This should be powerful enough! 😕

                              Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                              HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                              Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                              Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                              • PanPuszek
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                                PanPuszek
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                                Hey @Woife and @mib2berlin!

                                I have mentioned my specs in this post https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/813854 - 32GB of RAM, i5 13600K, RTX4080. I do not believe that the specs play the role here.

                                I don't know how the testing goes, but I'm able to consistently reproduce this issue across a range of computers with different specs, different networks, and even in a clean windows installation in sandbox. Every time I've tried it on any other device, I had no other extensions installed but Adguard.

                                I can confirm that MV2 version of Adguard works, MV3 does not (needs refresh in a new, backgroud tab). I've noticed that Edge and Zen (Firefox) versions of Adguard do use MV2.

                                Upon my testing, using start vivaldi --disable-vivaldi makes the problem go away - Adguard MV3 no longer requires refresh in a newly opened background tabs to work. Have you tested this @Woife?

                                I'm not sure what to do next. I think I just gave up on this and went on with my life refreshing all the new tabs opened in background by a force of habit at this point 😅

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                                  Woife @PanPuszek
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                                  @PanPuszek

                                  Hi.

                                  I tested Vivaldi with start vivaldi --disable-vivaldi and it is indeed working as it should. But that is not an option for me. I want the full "Vivaldi experience" with my custom theme and layout.

                                  I have now tested so many Chromium-based browsers with so many versions of AdGuard that I dare to say: Vivaldi is to blame. I have used AdGuard MV3 beta and final sucessfully in Vivaldi for many months. It stopped working maybe 5-6 weeks ago. Initially I blamed AdGuard for two weeks until I did some testing and finally found your thread here.

                                  Adblocking is extremely important to me - uBlock Origin Lite has only maybe 30% of the features of uBlock Origin, whereas AdGuard has maybe 90% of the features of uBlock Origin. I need custom rule sets and filters - so uBlock Origin Lite is not doing it for me. I switched back to uBlock Origin until Google will finally murder the extension in the next months.

                                  I salute you that you are able to open links in new tabs and hit refresh every single time - I can't do it. I open hundreds of tabs in the background every day...

                                  Like you, I have no idea what to do next. Original uBlock will soon be dead. AdGuard is the only reasonable alternative for me. And I really, really don't want to switch to other browsers, especially because I'm using Vivaldi on all my Android devices with sync enabled.

                                  I really wish this could be fixed somehow...

                                  Kind regards,
                                  Woife

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                                    mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
                                    last edited by mib2berlin

                                    @Woife @PanPuszek @Heidifliess
                                    I tested again on my Ryzen 7 system with a very fast NVMe M.2 SSD.

                                    AdGuard.gif

                                    I have no further idea what to test, was checking on an older laptop but cant reproduce it.
                                    Vivaldi 7.2.3621.63, clean profile only AdGuard V3.

                                    Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                                    HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                                    Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                                    Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                                      Woife @mib2berlin
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                                      @mib2berlin

                                      Thank you very much for your hard work finding the root cause. 👍

                                      The only real difference I see between you and PanPuszek and me is you are using Intel / Radeon onboard graphics while PanPuszek and me are using NVIDIA RTX 4000 series. I have no idea how important graphic cards are for rendering web pages.
                                      Software seems pretty much the same.

                                      Like you and PanPuszek I have no idea what to do / test next.

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                                        mib2berlin Soprano @Woife
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                                        @Woife
                                        Was disabling hardware acceleration in Settings > Webpages mentioned for a test?

                                        Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                                        HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                                        Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                                        Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                                          Woife @mib2berlin
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                                          @mib2berlin

                                          I just installed the latest NVIDIA driver 572.83 that was released yesterday. Opening links in background tabs:

                                          • Ads are blocked but the space that the ads occupied is still used but simply blank.
                                          • YouTube ads are still shown, AdGuard is not working properly

                                          I disabled hardware acceleration - same result. Enabled it again - same result.
                                          The new NVIDIA driver is the only thing that changed during this tests, so something has happened.

                                          AdGuard.png

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                                            DoctorG Soprano @Woife
                                            last edited by DoctorG

                                            @Woife For me it looks like so-called "cosmetic filter" fails in Adguard to hide the removed content.
                                            In such case for me a reload with F5 hide the areas.

                                            _bug hunter · Volunteer helper · Sopranos tester · Language DE,EN · ♀👵
                                            Known old dragon lady: Gwen aka Dr. Gwen Agon aka GwenDragon aka DoctorGTesting


                                            Linux Debian 12 KDE X11 / Windows 11 Pro
                                            Intel i5-7400 / NVidia GT 710

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