A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience

RadekPilich

Ayespy

@RadekPilich Keeriminy. I once had two workspaces. I can't imagine how I could possibly make use of 20 of them. But I will make 20 of them in one of my instances, and see if I can reproduce your crash. About how many tabs do you have in each workspace?

mib2berlin

@RadekPilich
I guess this was a OOM (Out of Memory) crash, Vivaldi kind of reload all tabs in a workspace if you change.
Some users report slowdown of changing workspaces.
The developer working on a fix fix some other issues in the workspace code too.
I hope we get it in one of the next 7.0 updates.

Cheers, mib

Ayespy

@RadekPilich So I tried to open 20 workspaces with 3-20 (average of about 10) tabs apiece. I got to 16 workspaces before everything was just freezing up so bad, I had to stop. It simply consumed more resources than my pretty powerful laptop could easily provide. This is an Intel i7 with 8GB DDR4 RAM, and 16 workspaces was just too much. I suspect the solution would be to hibernate any workspace you're not in. Jumping from workspace to workspace makes Vivaldi try to keep them all open. And running 20 workspaces would be keeping hundreds of tabs open all the time. I could not produce a crash, but I could for sure produce a freeze.

yngve

@Ayespy My guess: Your machine started swapping to disk, which can slow down performance to a crawl at the best of times.

dogbreath

@jon My first post shouldn't be about spiting the browser I love... but it is. The new design NEEDS a way to go back.

mikeyb2001

@dogbreath look for compact in the settings

mib2berlin

@dogbreath
Just search the forum, there are 20 threads about.
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/102198/guide-v7-user-interface/

Ayespy

@yngve I'm sure you're right.

RadekPilich

@Ayespy 64GB RAM here, I am well aware that I wouldn't be able to run 20 workspaces with 1500 tabs with less than 32GB RAM.

mossman

@mikeyb2001 said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

@mossman said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

@Stardust said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

@Catweazle said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

@Stardust, I like the UI of the SSuite Netsurf, maybe as inspiration for our geeks to create some mods

that screenshot looks like from 2000x

They look like one of the old Opera icon sets (pre v12) to me...

That's probably intentional considering the user base that originally jumped ship from Opera to Vivaldi

What has that got to do with icons in SSuite Netsurf?

mossman

@Ayespy said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

@RadekPilich I don't get what people are doing to get random crashes. In multiple versions on multiple machines, I just can't reproduce that. It doesn't happen. There have to be local differences in setup or behavior that can cause this.

1000 tabs, maybe?

I honestly do not understand tab hoarding at all. That's what bookmarks are for! (Edit: and reading list for what you might call "temporary bookmarks".)

RadekPilich

@mossman Bookmarks are for references I intend to come back over and over again in the future. Tabs are for resources that help during research / decision making / implementation and can be discarded once a particular matter has been dealt with. Plus also operational stuff like movies, albums, forums, programmes, feeds etc. It all serves as VISUAL active reminder. If I don't deal with it in time I process the particular tab stacks in particular workspace and either throw it away or bookmark a sub-set off it for future reference. Generally I don't browse through Bookmarks, as it is not visual and flexible enough. 1000 tabs is not that many tabs if you realize the workspaces are contextual - i.e. one for music, one for movies, one for computer & phone, one for food & clothes, one for house & diy etc.

Namal

I don't like the round address bar and I don't like the round tabs. Is it possible to have the old style back?

Edit: found out it is in the Themes, Editor settings.

mossman

@RadekPilich Well I would (and do) still just make folders with bookmarks (for likely-to-keep pages) or sessions (for research) in those cases. There's no way my humble brain could actively monitor 1000 pages all day every day.

barbudo2005

@mossman

Said:

I honestly do not understand tab hoarding at all. That's what bookmarks are for!

Said:

There's no way my humble brain could actively monitor 1000 pages all day every day.

It seems that we should go to the doctor, as I don't understand it either.

bariton

@mossman @barbudo2005 I will accompany you : -)

RadekPilich

@mossman that's why I was writing the explainer - I don't work with 1000 tabs, at any time I have like 20-200 tabs in a given workspace organized in tab stacks. I actively monitor names of renamed tab stacks. Which is actually LESS overwhelming then if I had to navigate through hierarchical list of bookmark folders! The whole point of doing this is to make it possible for me to function with pretty weak executive functioning / memory / attention.

Ferry007

@Stoodle U must play around custom apperence settings and lower round corners etc.

Stardust

I updated one of my Vivaldi Stable installation and saw annoying popup related to Sync. I do not use Sync feature and I never enabled it. I would like to never see such a popups in the future. Not a big issue but a small annoyance.