New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4

[TheFerenOSDeveloper]

Immediate request upon finding compact mode in this redesign:

Can compact mode square off the connecting ends of the tabs, like the legacy design did? It looks bad having them have a gap and rounding here when the UI is otherwise the legacy design in that state.

Also minor critique: The titlebar buttons' maximum roundness makes them look a tad weird - consider capping their roundness to be lower.

[Ayespy]

@Haress Stable and Snapshot are different browsers. You should not intermix them. You can run the Stable stream, or you can run the Snapshot stream, or you can run them both side by side, but you cannot "update" one with the other. You can update Stable when there is a newer version than yours. If you have not turned off auto-update, it will update itself and let you know. If you're on Linux, it will update with system updates. Also if you are on Linux, the system recognizes Stable and Snapshot as different apps. If you are on Windows, you can accidentally install Snapshot into the space where you already have Stable, and you should be careful not to do that.
A new version of Stable usually comes out every six to eight weeks (with minor updates, not version updates, usually security or break-fix patches along the way).

What version of Stable do you run now?

Snapshot, by the way, is not held out as suitable for broad public use, and may have bugs and inconsistencies, but it does have the very latest features developers are working on.

[Haress]

@Ayespy I have latest 6.9.3447.51 On Linux. Yes i just installed separate Snapshot build, dashboard is really fancy can't wait to see it in stable.

Just wanna share it

I like to test some interesting browser, especially trying to find some good for Linux. I found Vivaldi and it gives me this old feelings from software of past, where everything is new and so cool to explore and use.

But it's a lot of hard stuff for unexperienced users here, and a lot of small troubles. For example, not all my cursor work properly in Vivaldi (When i hover mouse over Vivaldi it automatically changes to default one). I changed my cursor and fixed it, but still, even if it Linux problem it's a unfortunate friction. Constantly Oauth pop ups, and it throw me out of my Vivaldi account recently.

Vivaldi is one of most interesting Browsers, or most. Fact.
So many good software projects was killed buy hard to entry issues, and small friction in use.

But as it seems Vivaldi have frequent updates, and rapid development, so prey on it. (More experimental features to unlock would be so good)

Oh, to mention Mobile version is fire, it definitely needs polishing, but right now it's so cool. Definitely better than Opera, Chrome. Firefox is more barebone, so some will like it, but in general Firefox also can loose.

[Ayespy]

@Haress Glad to hear you are enjoying it. You are running the latest version of Stable.

[dannilundgren]

I am visually impaired, and I need to say that the rounded square on many of the new icons make them look to similar. I have to zoom in a lot to see the difference, or resize the UI so much that it wil take up a lot of space on the screen.
With the current / old icon design I can easily differenciate them from each other while only using a bit of magnification.

[DoctorG]

@dannilundgren I agree, for people with visual impairment it is not easy to distinguish as these icons have thinner outline and recognising what a symbol means is not easy. #usability
I switched back to old symbol design. #accessibility

[mossman]

Does anyone else have a problem with newsfeeds in this update?

I haven't received anything this week...

On Friday afternoon I installed this snapshot and my company also activated Zscaler (VPN/proxy/security thing) - so I'm not sure if it's one or the other causing the problem.

[npro]

@Haress said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

not all my cursor work properly in Vivaldi (When i hover mouse over Vivaldi it automatically changes to default one).

Ubuntu's "snap" package problem most probably. It doesn't see custom theming. Sucks that Ubuntu is being recommended as the beginner's distro and sad in general where this open-source ecosystem is going the last years because of those corporate players like Canonical, Red Hat and SUSE.

If you want your custom cursor showing in Vivaldi, download and install the real package (not from the snap store) from https://vivaldi.com/download/

[Kocho]

@doctorg: not visually impaired, but I have noticed this too. Depending on the theme used, one should try disabling transparency and/or increasing contrast to the max. That helps

[Hadden89]

@DoctorG @Kocho But at the end I just end to download the classic theme

[DoctorG]

A new Vivaldi design should not force users to fiddle around with themes settings or adding new themes to get it fixed. #accesibility standards.

[TbGbe]

@DoctorG said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

A new Vivaldi design should not force users to fiddle around

To be fair to the devs, this is a Snapshot
Hopefully, we check it out and they take comments on accessibility (etc.) into account before introduction into Stable.

[DoctorG]

@TbGbe said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

To be fair to the devs, this is a Snapshot

Users having usability and accessibility trouble will not forgive.

[Kocho]

@hadden89: Why not Vivaldi Origins

[Durtro]

@mossman was about to create a reply regarding that...

My not so simple answer is yes and no. In a windows installation I stopped receiving new feeds but I do receive them in my linux installation.

One thing I did in my linux installation that I didn't do on windows was try the new folder functionality for feeds and in the process the db was messed up. Fortunately the restore worked...

[mossman]

@Durtro said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

@mossman was about to create a reply regarding that...

My not so simple answer is yes and no. In a windows installation I stopped receiving new feeds but I do receive them in my linux installation.

One thing I did in my linux installation that I didn't do on windows was try the new folder functionality for feeds and in the process the db was messed up. Fortunately the restore worked...

Thanks for the confirmation - in that case I can experiment a bit with folders and recreating feeds. I noticed if I went to a feed link I would get the summary view webpage as normal, so I felt like Zscaler was not blocking the content - I wasn't sure if there is some other transport protocol involved in checking for updates and that was maybe being blocked. Couldn't find much online about this topic...

Hmmm... no change. Created a folder, moved everything in and out of it, deleted it, deleted feeds, recreated feeds... this is in Windows.

Bug submitted: VB-110221

[sjudenim]

@TbGbe said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

@DoctorG said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

A new Vivaldi design should not force users to fiddle around

To be fair to the devs, this is a Snapshot
Hopefully, we check it out and they take comments on accessibility (etc.) into account before introduction into Stable.

Yes, and Vivaldi was in desperate need of a makeover. I run mods all the time so I forget. But when I test a fresh install I'm always surprised how dated and ugly Vivaldi is.

The new look is definitely a step in the right direction (save for those icons)

[electryon]

@sjudenim said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

@TbGbe said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

@DoctorG said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

A new Vivaldi design should not force users to fiddle around

To be fair to the devs, this is a Snapshot
Hopefully, we check it out and they take comments on accessibility (etc.) into account before introduction into Stable.

Yes, and Vivaldi was in desperate need of a makeover. I run mods all the time so I forget. But when I test a fresh install I'm always surprised how dated and ugly Vivaldi is.

The new look is definitely a step in the right direction (save for those icons)

The icons in the address bar also need a makeover...
The SiteInfoButton icon, that lock... all browsers used to have that lock but all of them have replaced it with a modern icon.
The bookmark icon and that grey fill it has...
I personally "borrow" Brave's address bar svg icons and replace all of them in Vivaldi with css.
Especially now with the new icon set.. the address bar icons look even more older.

[DoctorG]

I think user should be asked by a popup before a new design is forced on their theme settings.
Do not force users who have longterm theme setting to jump in settings and reedit their theme. #usability!

[electryon]

@DoctorG said in New look, new feature – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3483.4:

I think user should be asked by a popup before a new design is forced on their theme settings.
Do not force users who have longterm theme setting to jump in settings and reedit their theme. #usability!

Who does that? I don't know any browser or software in general that keeps older designs for ever.
Some people complain at major design changes of a software but eventually they get used to the new design.
People have been complaining about chrome refresh 2023 but they have stopped and they all now use the new interface.
People have been complaining about Firefox Proton even with threatening emails to Mozilla lol but they have stopped and now they are used to it.
I don't think we should expect the current icon set to even exist in let's say Vivaldi 9...