Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality
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Unfortunately, this will be the end of Vivaldi. I have used it since the first version came out.
However, if uMatrix is no longer working, this will be a red line.
Vivaldi has the chance to protect their users but this statement is clear: Vivaldi supports Google and is no longer developed for their users.I hope, Vivaldi devs will change their mind and remind themselves why they exist.
Otherwise, it will be a goodbye.
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Hi, the developer stops the development of uBlock for Chromium browsers.
This was published in a German PC journal.https://www.heise.de/news/uBlock-Origin-stellt-Chrome-Version-ein-und-empfiehlt-Firefox-9824660.html
Cheers, mib
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@electryon said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
Name it... which chromium browser(s) is going to keep MV2???
Umm, maybe next time read the whole post before start banging the keyboard in rage?
This forum/topic is just basically an echo chamber. It's a waste of time posting here. I'll unsubscribe and leave you to it. Anyways, it seems pointless to be here because it definitely looks like a change to Firefox needs to be done in a near future. 2nd time forced to leave (Opera & now Vivaldi). Well, nothing lasts forever. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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@Preorian Farewell
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@Preorian said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@electryon said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
Name it... which chromium browser(s) is going to keep MV2???
Umm, maybe next time read the whole post before start banging the keyboard in rage?
This forum/topic is just basically an echo chamber. It's a waste of time posting here. I'll unsubscribe and leave you to it. Anyways, it seems pointless to be here because it definitely looks like a change to Firefox needs to be done in a near future. 2nd time forced to leave (Opera & now Vivaldi). Well, nothing lasts forever. So long and thanks for all the fish.
Huh? Nobody has rage against you. I am just asking for a direct reply for something you claimed.
Trying to make it personal means you have nothing to reply and try to make it personal to avoid replying.
Still I will try again... can you name the chromium browser which is going to keep V2? -
Given the way things are going, it doesn't make much sense to keep mentally rambling on about MV3. The dice are already rolled.
It's like time is frozen between June 2024 and June 2025.
1.- Those who use the built-in adblocker are happy and will continue to use it, hoping it will improve.
2.- Those who use uBO are happy and will continue to use it until June 2025. At that time they will decide whether to switch to the adblocker or migrate.
3.- The most "hardcore" have already made their decision and have already migrated.
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Also you claimed that google does some anti-adblock measures with YT now? Not very successful I might add, I have no problems watching ad-free videos from YT.
Not going to be consistent of course because Youtube serves different versions of the page. If I pause a video for a few hours, when I unpause, it very frequently attempts to load an ad instead of continuing the video. Also when I restart the browser and it loads up the tabs. Sometimes ublock stops the ad completely and it's just a 15 second black screen, sometimes I see a static ad with the 5 second "wait to skip the ad" button. They haven't yet managed to deliver video ads but it's way more disruptive than it was 6 months ago.
My main argument to using uBlock instead of Vivaldi's built in is that they have much more public presence of help online, if I want to do something unusual I can generally find someone who's done it with uBO before.
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@Stereog, as said, no ads with the Vivaldi blocker in the YT page and no ads in the videos with the script I use
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@Catweazle said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@Stereog, as said, no ads with the Vivaldi blocker in the YT page and no ads in the videos with the script I use
If I use the Vivaldi blocker on default settings, I see the ads for a split second every time it tries to play one, which is only a little bit disruptive. But I also use about 20 custom rules to clean up YouTube's interface so I'd need to move to a different css editing plugin as well, not eager to do that.
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Dangit, I was really hoping this wasn't going to be vivaldi's position.
Now I'm going to have to abandon the browser that I love and have been championing to everyone I know for years (vivaldi), and move to firefox. Dammit
I thought configurability and choice were the whole point of vivaldi? Shaking my head
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@patso This is not a "position." Vivaldi does not have the resources to refactor Chromium with every new update to keep MV2 in service. Probably no one does. They simply can't do it.
If they were to try to rebuild Vivaldi on top of Gecko, it would take them back some ten years or so in their progress - a completely non-viable choice.
So what they HAVE to do is to develop their own internal Ad and Tracking blocker as thoroughly as possible, to make up for the loss of MV2 blocking extensions.
And that is what they are doing.
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Guys really look at the title of the thread there is no goodbye to Vivaldi all the concerns are being addressed as well as they can how it works in practice is still to be seen in 2025
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Most ads are caused by delayed Javascript injections. Currently these can not be caught by Vivaldi Blocker.
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@thebestpessimist: i disagree and i would have made the same desicion. why make yourself dependant on somebody else on such a fundamental level?
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@esygrin said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@thebestpessimist: i disagree and i would have made the same desicion. why make yourself dependant on somebody else on such a fundamental level?
After Manifest 3 kicks in the best one uBlockOrigin is dead, and successor uBlockOriginLite is not really usable/feature-rich for experienced users
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I miss documentation which rules are supported by Vivaldi Blocker.
Missing at https://help.vivaldi.com/developers/Next year, with Manidest3 no features of uBlockOrigin anymore, and Vivaldi Blocker needs more attention by dev team.
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@DoctorG, well, at least, with the dead of uBO in 2025 all browsers will have problems if they don't have an inbuild working blocker, even if they still support v2, because v2 blockers won't work anymore as they sshould after June 2025. Because of this Vivaldi and other browser with an inbuild blocker will have an advantage, even if the blocker isn`t so powerfull as the current uBO (also Mozilla is struggling with this, working on a own approach)
June 2025 for sure isn't the end of Vivaldi, maybe even the opposite.
We'll see -
For me, Vivaldi's built-in blocker isn't perhaps the best-you-can-find but
- "best you can find" is a moving target
- built-in doesn't make you depend on 3rd parties (which can cease to update or exist at any point in time)
- Vivaldi is a low-barrier start for unexperienced users who probably just started to become aware of privacy stuff and worry about extensions and things
- the best mix of browser features and privacy feature you can currently get in a single "download and install" webbrowser
In other words, those who aren't satisfied with Vivaldi and know better will certainly be willing (and able!) to use a different browser and a different blocker.
Just my 2ct. Cheers, Thomas
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@schroedingershund And i experienced while testing the last days with uBlock+Badger the loading is slower compared to Vivaldi Blocker lists.
Extensions can have nice features but slow down more.Users who need much features working are not really always satisfied with Vivaldi and are invited to try Mozilla. Until Mozilla Corp. pollutes the browser with allowed ads.
PS: Welcome here, Hund of Dr. Schrödinger.
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@DoctorG, I'm currently testing this script, maybe a good complement to the Vivaldi blocker. It permits to delete objects of an webpage, WebEraser. It's somewhat outdated, but seems to work https://openuserjs.org/scripts/slow!/WebEraser
Erase parts of any webpage --annoyances, logos, ads, images, etc., permanently with just, Ctrl + Left-Click.
>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
