Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

DetRostAKL

to me ads are only a welcome side effect, i would not mind a reasonable amount if they would come w/o tracking and privacy concerns. this is why i use uMatrix and have all 3rd party scripts disabled by default, i only enable what the website really needs to function. as most of the typical website's code does not even load, i am browsing much faster this way. so browsing with v3 will be slower not faster! but then again, speed is certainly not a serious concern any more these days. privacy/tracking is - for me at least. hope vivaldi reconsiders, potentially joining forces with others to keep v2 alive. otherwise i am afraid it will be next exit librewolf.

RiveDroite

@despair1945 I just saw it as a fun word play.

catharticwaffle

Disappointing response. Vivaldi's adblocker has quite arcane settings (I only just now realized you can change the filter lists after going to see what settings it actually has). Until the built-in adblocker has feature parity with uBO's "My filters" option (and being editable in a text-field with error highlighting), it will not be a viable option for me, and I will be immensely disappointed and may leave for another browser. It would be far more beneficial to polish existing features (the feed reader is a pain to use and the things outlined above) than adding more or deprecating MV3.

It would also be appreciated if these shortcomings on Vivaldi's part would be acknowledged (and in a more substantial way) and the functionality be polished rather than publishing a PR piece.

Catweazle

@catharticwaffle, yes, the Vivaldi blocker need some improvement, but it works reasonable well, for sure better in futures updates.
Respect other browsers, which one? There are not much options, most even don't have an inbuild adblocker, needing extensions for everything with the above mencioned upcomming problems. Other engine? Yes, but there are only three current engines out there (some exotic forks apart), WebKit, which is becomming outdated, Gecko, ok, but it is becomming more and more compatibility issues with an Webstandart optimied for the mayority engine Chromium.
The only question is, how Chromium browser and others will and can affort the change to Mv3.
Not so much options left.

RiveDroite

@Catweazle if the only thing you care about is the built-in adblocker, Brave has feature parity with uBO.

That being said, it's lacking in so many other ways. It's pretty much just Chrome without the Google stuff and with Brave's stuff thrown in (BAT/VPN/etc). It's not for me, but that's pretty much the only other Chromium browser I can think of that would meet the adblocker requirement.

The Vivaldi one works just fine for my uses. I imported a few lists and I never see ads. I have no reason to look elsewhere.

zakius

@RiveDroite said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Brave has feature parity with uBO

maybe it is possible to configure shields to achieve the same results, but the way to get there is so convoluted it's not feasible, especially on mobile where you can't just use inspector or other tools to get the right selector and element picker from uBO is crucial
and even on desktop easy toggles for different features and domains are what makes uBO such a great tool
power needs to be convenient to be useful

GTStevenson

This seems the most sensible and reliable approach. Been using the built-in ad blocker for months with no issues. Thanks Vivaldi

TF-19

Ich benutze den eingebauten Adblocker schon seit Jahren und habe Javascript auch auf den meisten Seiten deaktiviert. Funktioniert bei mir einwandfrei.
https://chromewebstore.google.com/search/javascript

barbudo2005

Do you have this setting?:

chrome://management

And this?:

chrome://policy

If not, you are late.

npro

Thankfully -as this has been known for quite some time- I have worked over the last few years on being psychologically, mentally and practically prepared for that moment that will soon come.

Vivaldi states in the blog "we plan to include more features to our tracker and ad blocker" so that sounds still promising somehow. I say if it doesn't offer feature parity with uBO, that last remaining % of me using Vivaldi (due to the poor tab management) will be zeroed.

Manifest 2 ends in June 2025 and together with it a (somehow independent) era. Funnily (or oddly) enough I joined this forum in June 25, 2015... maybe "the universe" planned this all along , because it will most probably be:

R.I.P. Vivaldi (June 2015-June 2025)

It was exciting and fun.

Preorian

@barbudo2005

Could you please elaborate what you mean with those? And what do you mean by "If not, you are late.", late for what?

barbudo2005

@Preorian

You have to do this modification on the registry to maintain MV2 until June 2025:

Read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1bp5rj2/chrome_automatic_update_from_ubo_to_ubo_lite/

The settings mentioned above allow you to verify that they were well done.

I think that the modification must be made before the end of the month.

thewiley

@catweazle:
uBO Lite is much less capable but still FOSS from the same author and thus just as trustworthy.

Firefox has its own store and is not affected by any of this.

Even with Google removing uBO from the Chrome extension store, I would still be able to sideload it if Vivaldi chose to continue support for Mv2.

Preorian

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

You have to do this modification on the registry to maintain MV2 until June 2025:

Ok. And how to do it with Linux?

EDIT: And it's not too late then if done by the end of the month?

npro

@Preorian said

And how to do it with Linux?

( Follow this thread... https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98415/policies-for-vivaldi )

/added: or if you want to be that tl;dr type of person see my next reply...

npro

@npro @Preorian

sudo mkdir -p /etc/chromium/policies/managed && cd $_

sudo tee butiwanttousemanifestV2.json <<EOF
{
"ExtensionManifestV2Availability": 2
}
EOF

(/late edit: for anyone else interested in using this method, obviously I'm joking with the name of the file, use a... better one? )

ybjrepnfr

@npro said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

butiwanttousemanifestV2

butiwanttousemanifestV2aswellaststfunctionality

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

butiwanttousemanifestV2aswellaststfunctionality

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ybjrepnfr

@npro

npro

@ybjrepnfr

Isn't it splendid on top of everything else wrong?