Why does Vivaldi not sync regulary?
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@daniel Good to know this
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good to hear indeed
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I share the frustration (i recently saw a 23 hour delay I think) but namecalling and profanities do not help anything. You can look up the needed passwords on your phone too.
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@felagund
Hi, a user publish a 3 liner .js script to handle this with a command chain and an icon.
I will edit here if you interested.
If I add or remove something sync is updated immediately or after some minutes, 23 hour is strange.Cheers, mib
EDIT:
May other user are interested too:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/83096/sync-button-trigger-getupdates/33?_=1711158136087 -
Thanks. The thing is I am usually away from my desktop on my phone, wanting to read something I opened on the desktop, when I would need such a button. The phone says the time when the desktop was synchronized - at the time I had not used the desktop for multiple hours, so it could not have synced. However, a number of tabs were not synced, so the last sync had happened some time before I stopped using the desktop. There was also some problem with Android browser, the panel button was gone for some time, until it reappeared mysteriously later.
In practice, I am more concerned about the ability to open and close tabs remotely ("send to phone", "close on desktop") and multiselect ("open these five tabs on the phone"), which would make sync a lot more useful to me.
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@felagund
Hi, the send to device was removed from the Chromium developer, it seems to much work to maintain such a feature in the future.
Adding it back should no be not be the problem.
On mobile I always have a speed dial with vivaldi://sync-internals, if I know I need something on other devices I use this.
On desktop you can use the windows panel for synced tab or even search in the address bar for tabs, no idea if this work in the Quick Menu.
All tabs are on all devices anyway, send 5 tabs make no sense to me.
Cheers, mib
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Ha, from a user perspective, it sounds like a pretty easy feature, but what do I know:-).
Regarding multiselect - when I want to open five tabs on a phone, i need to do it one by one, no?
On a desktop, it indeed is not needed, I was not aware that synced tabs are in the windows panel, that is perfect.
(I know how to manually trigger sync, the problem is I usually only realize I want to do it when I am away from the device I would need to do it on).
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@felagund
This would be a nice feature request for mobiles, I guess this is really easy to add.
I would vote for it, even I would rarely use it.Cheers, mib
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As for my sync troubles, this morning I opened my phone and it said last sync of desktop was 15 hours ago. But I worked on the desktop for a few hours up to eight hours ago. Eight hours ago, I also used Vivaldi on mobile for maybe 15 minutes. I would expect it would have synced then, yet it only synced now. Above it is stated the delay should be at most one hour now - it does not seem to be the case for me. I am on Linux on the desktop (this is a Windows section I now see).
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The maximum delay is one hour per client. However, with real bad luck, two clients can sync at the end and start of an hour — causing an almost two hour delay. This is clearly ridiculous.
We will be rolling out near instant Sync soon. I cannot commit to a time frame, but I can say that the bulk of the required work has already been completed.
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@daniel Nice that you shared information about sync delays.
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@daniel Great to hear this will be fixed eventually. Is the one hour delay taken from calendar time or app-use time? I would expect that when I do not use the device for an hour and then I open Vivaldi, it immediatelly synces. It is not what seemsto be happening on my side (see above).
Unless, only the "Last synced" on mobile's "Synced" tab is not reliable. Just now I opened my phone (I have used it plenty today, as I did my computer) and it was showing "Synced one day ago". After about 5 seconds, it switched to "Synced now". No sync tabs visibly changed, but I think they stayed the same anyway on the visible part of the screen. Can it be that it is syncing and just the infor about when syncing happened only updates when the sync tab is opened? Though I think that is not what has been happening.
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@felagund The one-hour delay is a calendar-time schedule from the client session start time. On mobile, this is complicated somewhat by the application life-cycle (background-resume/foreground/cold-start). Force stopping and restarting on all platforms will always force Sync to update.
This is obviously not how it should work. We hope to ship near instant Sync soon. With near instant Sync, you should not ever have to think about Sync or notice any delays (no more than maaaybe up to 8–10 seconds delay on a bad day in bad weather on a bad network between two slow devices).
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@daniel said in Why does Vivaldi not sync regulary?:
This is obviously not how it should work. We hope to ship near instant Sync soon. With near instant Sync, you should not ever have to think about Sync or notice any delays (no more than maaaybe up to 8–10 seconds delay on a bad day in bad weather on a bad network between two slow devices).
That sounds perfect! I will not dig into my issues now then and wait for this improvement, as I assume that is a major overhaul how it all works and it should get rid of my current issues (where I think the delay is even more than 2 hours quite often but indeed can be caused by things like battery saver on Android and what not, no need to dwell in to it).
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Hello @daniel,
I still have sync issues on my devices (Linux <--> Android). This is actually not rocket science and should have high priority to fix.
So are you guys going to solve this soon or am I better off with a Notes app with working synchronization?Thank you for your feedback!
BR Stefan
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@sschmidhuber
Hi, what do you meant with issues?
Vivaldi sync does not work immediately, they don't have the $$$ of Google or Microsoft.
You can trigger the sync manually if needed, open vivaldi://sync-internals and hit the button Trigger GetUpdate.
I have this page as a speed dial.Cheers, mib
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Hello @mib2berlin
thank you, well the manual triggered sync works. The issue was that my notes didn't sync, which of course makes the whole notes feature useless.
Is it possible to trigger the sync when opening the Notes? Or at least move the sync button into the regular UI?I'm testing now the delay for auto sync, but I think it took multiple days or didn't work at all.
BR Stefan
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@sschmidhuber
The auto sync should work in max. one hour or if you restart Vivaldi.
There is a way to add an icon for triggering on desktop manually but it is a bit complicated with a java script and a command chain.
If I can find it again I will post it here.Cheers, mib.
