Import & Export for Mail, Calendar and Feeds
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TL;DR Version: A fundamental principle of user rights is that users own their data, not vendors, and that includes contacts and email accounts. Users should be able to control their data which means complete capability to import and export to ensure platform independence. Otherwise, user data is isolated on a platform under vendor control, not user control. I believe the team at Vivaldi, given their policies and mission statement, will agree with this. I will not even consider Vivaldi Mail until that is supported.
Short story, long version : I currently use a couple of PC workstations (Ubuntu Linux LTS) and a laptop (macOS) and run VMs of various OSes. I need to be able to import and export password, mail, and other data to set up and maintain my isolated VMs for OPSEC in general and specifically secure financial and email use. We all know Google scans all our emails and I suspect Apple does too (they denied self-promotion ranking of store search against Dropbox for example until caught, so I do not trust them). My password manager supports full import and export of my data. My current mail platform, Mozilla Thunderbird, does as well. For Vivaldi to be a viable candidate for email migration for me, it must support full import and export of all my data so that it remains under my control. While IMAP mail is synched cross-platform, contacts and account are not. That is why import and export in standardized formats (vcf, csv, JSON, etc.) is critical for me. To not support this is a non-starter for users concerned about data integrity and security.
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Has there been any progress on this? Can you export emails yet?
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@browseruser No. This is not yet a priority. Too many basic fixes ahead of it.
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@pcpll So almost one year after my initial post about bad/primitive RSS support in Vivaldi, I can still observe that there was almost close to zero improvement in RSS management. There is no folder support, I cannot easily update a feed, exporting and importing OPML is cumbersome, and what not. This is one of the sole reasons I DON'T move to Vivaldi as my native browser. RSS readers have been existing for years and even on Opera 8-9. Those two browsers last update was more than 10 years ago, they are neither in development but all have those features.
@Ayespy It is very easy to implement a good RSS reader. I have written many RSS readers in multiple languages (Python/Javascript/Bash/AutoIt). There are hundreds of open source algorithms out there to help some developer. There is no reason to delay, so much a basic (relative to Vivaldi, the somewhat successor to Opera 12), feature. -
For first time used RSS feed feature of vivaldi but now wanted to add another exported file form feedly and google news and remove the ones added in vivaldi feed by exporting them but found no option for import export like it is for passwords and bookmarks. Half-baked idea which is again bad. Is it too cumbersome to get basic feature of import export? Plus no presence on mobile is also half-baked since I read morning news via travel not on laptop but mobile and tablet which are both android. Too bad.
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@LoneRanger12 said in Import & Export for Mail, Calendar and Feeds:
but found no option for import export like it is for passwords and bookmarks
In the case of the OPML files, you can open them directly on Vivaldi and import it from there: https://help.vivaldi.com/mail/mail-feeds/import-feeds-from-other-feed-readers/
As for bringing the feed reader to the mobile (which I would love to see as well!) I believe the most important feature would be synchronizing the read status of the articles and which ones I've deleted on other devices (I don't want to keep reading the same news in different devices, like I had to with the Opera feed reader - one of the biggest reasons why I moved to online feed readers at the time).
I can see not implementing the mail client on mobile due to space and bandwidth restrictions, for example. But for feeds I think synchronization would be the main issue. There's a feature request about adding feeds to synch, you may want to vote for it: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53420/sync-email-rss-calendar-configurations-and-seen-read-statuses -
@pauloaguia said in Import & Export for Mail, Calendar and Feeds:
As for bringing the feed reader to the mobile (which I would love to see as well!) I believe the most important feature would be synchronizing the read status of the articles and which ones I've deleted on other devices (I don't want to keep reading the same news in different devices, like I had to with the Opera feed reader - one of the biggest reasons why I moved to online feed readers at the time).
I would like to drive your attention towards these 2 software namely app and extension. While the app works on android mobiles and android devices like tablets, the extension works on chromium browsers.
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Feeder
An awesome Libre and Open Source RSS feed reader
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nononsenseapps.feeder/ -
Feedbro
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/feedbro/mefgmmbdailogpfhfblcnnjfmnpnmdfa
Both has all the features to be an excellent RSS feed reader. So, you can study them and see how you can implement this on mobiles and tablets where news reading and blog reading via rss feeds subbed is most important.
I dont open laptop while travelling to work to read news. I open vivaldi browser (here feeder app) to read news.
Plus feeder app provides me instant notifications to rss feed subbed, so i read notification panel and see their titles and decide to open them or not.
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@pauloaguia For mail, your team can consider standalone apps like proton has done, not combining all thus leading the main app with usage and performance load.
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It definitely seems like it would be easy to implement the ability to export saved RSS feeds, as well as update them from within the feed menu. For updates, I feel that the same interface used in the Bookmarks menu would be fine.
I'd say the fact that there currently isn't a way to export at all is bigger issue, however.
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And there it is, I just accidentally deleted all my feeds while trying to clear messages.
Thanks for letting me back these up - considering uninstalling vivaldi at this point
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I just tried to export a mail folder, forgetting that no such capability exists in Vivaldi mail. I'm disappointed that after 4 years there's been no priority given to enhancing Vivaldi mail's competitiveness as an email manager. I use it in limited fashion for my couple of vivaldi.net addresses, but until it provides more comprehensive import/export capabilities - such as the ability to export a folder to an mbox, I can't make full use of it much as I'd like to. The workaround suggested in Vivaldi help, which is to configure up another mail client that does support this capability might just as well say go find a better mail client and use that instead. Is there a way of voting this up the developer priority list?
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@Miikl said in Import & Export for Mail, Calendar and Feeds:
no priority given to enhancing Vivaldi mail's competitiveness as an email manager.
It may seem this way if a feature is missing that is essentially to you - focus was on significantly improving the client's filtering capabilities and other functions like quick reply that help with the daily use. But true, there have been no improvements lately to import/export.
@Miikl said in Import & Export for Mail, Calendar and Feeds:
Is there a way of voting this up the developer priority list?
Yes, by liking the very first post in this thread.
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@LoneRanger12 Still waiting to hear some updates for a proper in-built cross syncing RSS feed which google had ages ago. Today chrome has built its follow site options within chrome with option to read them and notifications. But vivaldi...
