Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3

[Pesala]

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[Pathduck]

[Settings] Enable ‘Hide Title Bar when Tabs Are Not on Top’ by Default (VB-96133)

As one who loves a minimal browser UI I absolutely love this new feature, and once working properly will save me a whole bunch of custom CSS.

However, not sure if this is intentional or not, but the title bar still shows in a maximised window, if the tabs are on top/bottom AND the tab bar is then hidden in settings. This is inconsistent with how a regular/restored window shows; without a title bar.

Looks like it's this selector in custom.css that's causing it to show:

#browser.tabs-at-edge #header {
    min-height: calc(30px / var(--uiZoomLevel));
}

I guess I'll have to make a bug report unless this is already worked on?

[Pesala]

@Pathduck There are some serious usability issues with the no title bar:

• No Trash Can
• Unable to drag window to another monitor

If those issues can be fixed, having no title bar in a restored window would be fine.

[Pathduck]

@Pesala Yes, there are some issues - as well as the Sync cloud icon will be missing. The trash bin and and cloud icons have always been out of place IMO, and have not been possible to move, so I suspect at some point they will be made into separate regular buttons to be placed where the user chooses.

They would both fit nicely on the status bar I think. The Sync functionality could be integrated into the existing Sync status button. There's no need for two cloud icons.

No Trash Can

Yes, but the keyboard hotkey still works, which is what I'd use anyway

Unable to drag window to another monitor

Yes, they'll need to figure out some elegant solution to this. I'm guessing the centered url bar would help, as there's a lot more free space to drag on the sides now (even though I absolutely hate a centered bar...)

Personally, I always use the browser maximised, so I don't care - and I know about Alt+Space already so I can use that if needed. Besides, Win+Shift+Left/Right does the job much faster

[npro]

@Pesala said in Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3:

No Trash Can

? Must be a Windows bug because I can see the Trash Can when I place the tab bar to either side, with native window or without. It's always at the bottom, next to the cloud icon.

Unable to drag window to another monitor

Again, that may be true for Windows, because on Linux with KDE (I assume with the other Desktop Environments as well) you can hold a key and grab a window from anywhere (even inside the webpage) and move it around.

[Pesala]

@npro said in Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3:

Must be a Windows bug

My mistake. The trash can is down at the bottom of the vertical tab bar, which is a long way down on my 1200x1600 portrait monitor.

Alt+Space works well enough. I guess anyone using vertical tabs in a restored window would be accustomed to it.

[npro]

@Pesala said in Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3:

The trash can is down at the bottom of the vertical tab bar, which is a long way down on my 1200x1600 portrait monitor.

Yep, which is the reason I don't use it and have added an extra menu entry inside the tab bar and webpage (page) menu. Always at my disposal.

[npro]

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[npro]

@Pathduck (Shrinking the status bar height) Seems like this isn't working anymore, right?

My mistake, for a moment I thought it was about the address bar, which also seems higher.

[dawidpajak]

Thanks guys! I've been waiting for workspaces in Vivaldi since Opera introduced them You think it may ship in v5.8?

[Hadden89]

@dawidpajak If it is enabled by default in snapshot, and no major issues appear, it will be on next stable too

[npro]

@Pathduck said in Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3:

[Settings] Enable ‘Hide Title Bar when Tabs Are Not on Top’ by Default (VB-96133)

As one who loves a minimal browser UI I absolutely love this new feature, and once working properly will save me a whole bunch of custom CSS.

However, not sure if this is intentional or not, but the title bar still shows in a maximised window, if the tabs are on top/bottom AND the tab bar is then hidden in settings. This is inconsistent with how a regular/restored window shows; without a title bar.

Looks like it's this selector in custom.css that's causing it to show:

#browser.tabs-at-edge #header {
    min-height: calc(30px / var(--uiZoomLevel));
}

I guess I'll have to make a bug report unless this is already worked on?

Not only that, but this new Setting should be complemented with hiding the header area as well (otherwise done with

/* hide tab bar*/
#browser:not(.tabs-top) #header {
    display: none;
}

)

to cover the case of a native window with the address bar to the bottom. (otherwise there's an ugly strip below the native window's titlebar).

[sjudenim]

@Pathduck said in Workspaces – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2970.3:

[Settings] Enable ‘Hide Title Bar when Tabs Are Not on Top’ by Default (VB-96133)

As one who loves a minimal browser UI I absolutely love this new feature, and once working properly will save me a whole bunch of custom CSS.

Same. I'm so glad this is finally here! I've been running mods since the browsers inception (and having to deal with many update breaks) to achieve this.

But,
[BUG] The menu button does not get drawn onto the .mailbar (when using the hide titlebar option)

Looking at the inspector it seems as if .vivaldi (menu button) isn't present anywhere when the .mailbar is active

[OakdaleFTL]

@Ruarí

[ugly]

I don't think it's in the changelog, but my pet bug: "(VB-92450) Very long startup time with large history file" seems to be fixed. Vivaldi only seems to take a few seconds to start up again (compared to about a minute in previous versions).

[wicketr]

@ruarí: Regarding "Session Store", I wish it would always keep a "last state" so that it wasn't a manual process.

If I install a Vivaldi Update or reboot my PC, Vivaldi will restore all the last open browser tabs. But if I manually close Vivaldi, it doesn't restore them and there's no way to get them back unless I manually save the session before closing. It's inconsistent behavior imo.

I like how Firefox has a "Restore Previous Session" that is always up to date.

[mnabn]

A tribute to Opera, the founder of Workspaces! I guess Vivaldi is a breakaway of Opera's inventive people

[B-iggy]

Hello @Ruarí, thanks for the feature, it's great!
Just tested it.
The only issue I have with it are pinned tabs. Is there a way to have "global pinned" tabs? So they are visible (get copied over) on each workspace without the need to duplicate them in each workspace? (similar like the workona addon works)
Example: I have 1 pinned youtube tab with my music playlist. It's not convenient if I have to switch/remember the workspace where it is.

Edit: and please add a shortcut/mouse gesture to Show all available workspaces in a little popup
(the one if I click at the Workspaces dropdown at the top left corner) and with 1 click I can go to it (also like in Workona)

Edit2: there is also a destructive behavior with workspaces:
if you have tabs open that are not in dedicated workspaces, open a new vivaldi window (CTRL + N), then close the first window, then close your new window and start vivaldi again, the tabs from the first window are all gone.

[Reyla]

Wow!! Workspaces and hiding title bar when tabs not on top. This is amazing, thank you. Really appreciate the update.

[AlphaGeekV2]

Just updated to this version and I can say it has a HUGE video playback issue on MacOS (ARM).
YouTube is dropping 2/3 frames and Twitch says "Your browser encountered an error while decoding the video. (Error 3000)" (error translated from French so maybe not 100% accurate).

EDIT: I just made the report VB-96242 for this issue.

EDIT2: I rollback to a better working state but it is a nightmare to do as all tabs are blank and you have to go through all of them to hit enter in their address. After that, it's working but you will have to do so if you use history back/forward to loaded pages before the version rollback otherwise you just have black page or the Vivaldi error page (file with bird thing).