Client Hints and a sense of déjà vu – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2950.3
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Pet - I really hope you guys'll fix the issues with DevTools in 5.8 so we can once again change tabs or close the tools without first focusing the webpage
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@LonM said in Client Hints and a sense of déjà vu – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2950.3:
Regardless of all that, I'm curious as to what the point is of the new feature. Vivaldi never offered a UA switcher, because the devtools were enough. Given you can configure Client hints the same way with the devtools, and assuming Vivaldi isn't adding its own brand (3) why add this feature?
I believe Google's long-term plan here is to replace the UA header with client hints, giving web developers an easier way to block clients they don't want to support, and also increase the data on OS, architecture etc for fingerprinting.
But, that might just be my tinfoil-hat wearing persona speaking
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22nd updated so many fixes
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@Ruarí As you can read in my signature, I use Windows 11, but I like the new setting "User Agent Brand Masking". Can Vivaldi then also better capture the user numbers?
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Ho, Ho, Ho! A new snapshot brought by @Ruarí!
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I see you are still messing with the address bar, good. There is a long-standing issue with not being focused in address bar when I press Ctrl+T in YouTube.com fullscreen. Normally it works but I always have to click into address bar when I make the new page from youtube full screen. Can anyone look at it really quickly? I already submitted bug report a long time ago but no one noticed it. VB-86280
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🪲Bookmarks
Any issue? or only for me?
In Bookmark Panel/Window add a Separator between bookmarks, select next bookmark, now the Separator is gone and only a white icon is shown.
Seems a bad bug from some internal Vivaldi 5.8 Daily broke out from its cage and infected Snapshots.
VB-95519 "Adding separator in bookmarks results in empty bookmark with white icon" - Confirmed. -
Yay! Status bar is back \o/ thanks!
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@DoctorG Can confirm.
But I keep my bookmarks always sorted by title and cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to do it any other way
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@LonM NoBrand is what is (and was) the default at the moment, just sending Chromium and the NotABrand in the header.
The probable end of line about this is that we will have to default to the Chrome brand, but we are still being a bit stubborn about this, hoping for sanity and tolerance to suddenly break out among the web devs .
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@Pathduck Restart may not be needed for the HTTP header, but it IS needed for the Javascript API to refresh; and all the bad sites (actual or suspected) has been using that, not the HTTP header.
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@feil0ng: Hmm, I just noticed. It is gone here! I never lost it in the previous snapshots ...
EDIT:
Actually, sometimes it is there ... white on white ...Win10x64
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@yngve Would be nice to send the real UA/CH at least at the partners & net counters; I really miss the fact of being able to see how much V is used globally
Is pretty clear other sites doesn't deserve any user agent; the only wants chromium. -
@yngve Right - good point!
Bad, bad sites!
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@Hadden89 Main problem with switching for specific sites is that while we can change the Header on the fly, we can't do that with the JS API (unless something can be managed JS side, which is very hacky).
However, the deal breaker, at least for the kind I can implement, is that the code generating the data does not have any access to the hostname, so no possibility to filter.
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Sadly calendar entry problems persist in this update & really should be addressed ASAP. Reported as VB-95358
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@Ruarí Ah, now i understand, what the ’deja vu’ means, dear Santa Ru.
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Strange Brand feature!
At https://browserleaks.com/client-hints i get with switch to "No Brand" this after restart:
sec-ch-ua: "Chromium";v="110", "Not A(Brand";v="24", "Vivaldi";v="5.8"
Something wrong with Network settings.
Devtools → Network show it sends this Sec-Ch.
Only reset of Settings → Network to Default worked.Initeresting fact: after switching UA, restart and switching to next UA and restart, list gets longer.
See:
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Good. Bing chat works if you mask it as Edge. It would be great if we can set this different for any site. Like in Opera Presto.
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@DoctorG Did you click enabled on the "Append Vivaldi"? the checkbox is supposed to be disabled in the UI when NoBrand or Vivaldi is selected in the drop down. Although it could be that we have a minor bug when it is checked before changing the dropdown. Not sure if it is worth fixing it