Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default
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@svivaldi said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
I used smartup, but dragging left and right to open the link is invalid (chrome can)
There is a setting you can change to make links draggable left/right instead of selecting the text. Can't remember what it's called, though.
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@komposten
Settings | Webpages
& untickAllow Text Selection in Links
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@hlehyaric Thank you very much for your advice, my problem is solved
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@komposten Thank you very much for your reply
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YEAHHHHHHHHH NEW TAB, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!
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@Pesala @gaelle
Hi there. I don't see the problem.
Let's take an example.
It's morning and you're sitting with the coffe and want to check the latest news from your favorite news provider.
You want to open every interesting headline you find on the main page.
But you doin't want to read them just now. You want to go over the main page and collect the news items of your interest.
If you do that, you'll have an eternal switching back to the main page.
It's actually a nowbrainer. You either click on a link or you click to open in another tap. This would signal that you want to preserve the original tab and what would be more straight forward and logic than to deduct that you want to stay on the original tab (in this case the news main page).To your words about getting too many tabs. No! No! No! Once you've scanned through that main page, you kill that one and start reading the news items you selected. Once read you kill that one as well and end up with an empty cup of coffee and an empty web browser. This argument with too many tabs makes no sense (to me). If you don't think your unit can manage "all these tabs" why have tabs in the first place. also, it's very easy to see how any browser just dumps the content and only loads the content when you bring the tab in question into focus.
I hope this can contribute to you guys look at this from another viewpoint.
At the very least make it possible to chose automatic opening in the background in the setup.
It's called freedom of choice as opposed to thinking one knows what's best for everybody and the just impose it.
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@Jesper1962 I agree! please add this
At the very least make it possible to chose automatic opening in the background in the setup. It's called freedom of choice as opposed to thinking one knows what's best for everybody and the just impose it.
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@mib2berlin
I haven't used a mouse for ages:
Many people only use laptops with touchpads... no middle mouse button on those devices ...
So opening external links in background with left mouse button is huge useability improvement for laptop-touchpad users. -
@peefy
Hi, my laptop has two buttons, if I click both it is middle mouse click but I have my mouse always in my bag anyway.I have no idea why this is not implemented since years, there are three ways to open new tabs in the background, cant be to hard to reach an already implemented function wit a fourth.
Cheers, mib
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Try this extension "Tab Position Options":
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tab-position-options/fjccjnfkdkdmjohojoggodkigkjkkjhl
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@Jesper1962 (Myself).
Gotta start proofreading again.
so many typos...
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@barbudo2005 thank you for your suggestion.
I try not to use extensions, that is my primary reason to use vivaldi.
With chrome etc. I would need 10 or 20 extensions to achieve what vivaldi does.
Adding this feature as an option to left click (which already exists on right click btw) would be the optimal solution
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@peefy As gaelle explained, opening links in the background by default would cause problems on some sites.
We all understand the benefits of opening search results in the background, but that is not the only scenario.
It is better to use a mouse gesture or the right-click menu to decide how to open links. These are what I use:
- GestureUp = Open Link in New Tab (Over a Link)
- GestureDown = Open Link in Background Tab (Over a Link)
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@Pesala Thanks for your remark.
Of course the "open in external page on left-click" is in some cases not optimal, but for that reason it should be an option, not a default.I only use a touchpad , not a mouse, so middle-clicks or mouse gestures are not practical for me (or often even not possible)
Because we suggest it only as an option, it would not derange people who love to use gestures or middle mouse clicks, they can continue to do that.
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@Pesala and @Gaëlle said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
Also, why is Ctrl + click or a mouse gesture that are already available not an option for you?
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ctrl-click is not an option because I can use only 1 hand !! (yes, those people exist too!)
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middle mouse click is not an option because I use no mouse, only touchpads on my laptops
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right click requires choosing from a menu which is cumbersome
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gestures is not an option because a) they don't work well on my touchpads, and b) I don't like to use them, because too cumbersome , difficult to remember for me, etc.
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I tried many chrome extensions, including the suggested 'long-click' but they are buggy or offer a bad user experience (at least for me).
In my pre-vivaldi years I used firefox which had an excellent extension for this (tab mix plus), and I never ran into problems with it.
I always installed this extension as my first thing to do.Luckily Vivaldi has most features of this extension, which allowed me to switch to Vivaldi. But Vivaldi still lacks decent links management. This extension handles links superbly.
See https://tabmixplus.org/support/viewtopic.php?t=3
feature request :
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maybe Vivaldi can copy the link management features of tab mix plus?
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Another thing to do is an easy accessible toggle button to turn the function on (e.g. search sites) or off (e.g. payment sites) depending of the website we visit.
Please consider this feature requests.
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I just remembered I asked for this feature some years ago, even referring to the 'tab mix plus' extension.
@jon, the Vivaldi CEO jumped in, and promised that this feature would be implemented.
That feature request was even marked DONE, what is clearly a mistake, as it is not implemented yet.
Although "something" is done, that "implementation" TOTALLY misses the point.
in the settings page you have the option:
new tab from link opens in background
You would expect that this option changes the standard behavior of the left-click, and that, when enabled, a left-click on a link would open a new tab in the background (as the option clearly says)
but the only thing this option does is REMOVING RIGHT-click MENU-item (why???)
enabling the option gives this:
disabling the option gives this:
so the only thing that the option does is REMOVING an option from a right-click menu, and then, even worse, change the associated action of the same menu item??? (why oh why??)
- ENABLING the option "New tab from link opens in background" REMOVES the menu item "Open link in background tab" and then it changes the function of the menu item "open link in new tab" to open the links in the background.
This is a first class example of bad user interface design, as it only leads to confusion and nothing else.
Never change the behaviour of a menu item!!- DISABLING the option "New tab from link opens in background" ADDS the menu item "Open link in background tab"
This is another example of bad user interface design!
Why remove a menu item?? Just leave the menu items, they don't harm anyone.The only logical action for that option, is just doing what the option "New tab from link opens in background" says, and that is :
when left clicking on a link, "open link in background tab", no more, no less.And especially not adding/removing items from menus. The rationale for that is a mystery for me.
Or, for a more superb link management solution, refer to the firefox extension "tab mix plus" (see above), that handles this graciously with no problems whatsoever.
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It makes sense in that if the primary option is to open links in a background tab, then the menu option becomes superfluous. As opposed to opening in the current tab, then you have the menu option if you don't want that in that instance.
The problem seems to be that most(?) sites override any user settings and do whatever they want. Not sure if other extensions force this somehow, but I have that option enabled and find myself using CTRL+click or drag/dropping links to open as the option is rarely enforced.
It seems Tab Mix Plus may do things differently, in which maybe it would be an option for Vivaldi to incorporate some of it's functions.
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@peefy said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
This is a first class example of bad user interface design, as it only leads to confusion and nothing else.
I agree with you, but this is exactly the same as Firefox. Open Link in New Tab is at the top of the menu, and it opens a link in a New Background Tab.
The change satisfies only some users, and could have been done without any new feature, by editing the context menu, moving Open Link in Background Tab to the top.
It seems that the decision was made not to override the web designer’s choice on how to open links.
Maybe start a new feature request, and see if it gains any traction.
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@Pesala thank you for your comments