Pulling the plug on expired Operating Systems

[ingolftopf]

@Panino
Or use Linux.

[Catweazle]

@Panino , a SSD anyway is fine, but W10 don't need much more min sys specs than W7

Processor:

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster compatible processor or System on a Chip (SoC)

RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit

Hard drive size:

32GB or larger hard disk

Graphics card:

Compatible with DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver

Display: 800x600

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

[Zalex108]

Despite the "Official Specs Paper",
Does anyone install W7/10/11/....
Just to run the OS?

People use Apps on Top, and now they use much more resources than before.
The OS too.

Been using W10 for a while time ago on the laptop but went back to W7 since has less unnecessary things and its performance it's better.

LTSC or Lite versions work better as for low end computers as to avoid annoyances for people.

Recently knew about some W10/11 Lite versions, Mini10, WinterOS and there's another, they are focused for LowEnd and to Gamers, would help to some people.

Not tested myself but seems they work fine.

[Panino]

@Catweazle said in Pulling the plug on expired Operating Systems:

@Panino , a SSD anyway is fine, but W10 don't need much more min sys specs than W7

Processor:

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster compatible processor or System on a Chip (SoC)

RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit

Hard drive size:

32GB or larger hard disk

Graphics card:

Compatible with DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver

Display: 800x600

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

This is nonsense... these specs.
Try using Windows 10 on a system like that.

But I was thinking about putting a SSD there anyway (duplicating the disk). Well, there's the money, what lacks now is more will to finally let go of Windows 7.

[Catweazle]

@Panino , yes you can without problems, there are even small netbooks and tablets working with W10. The only thing which maybe don't work in these is the Windows Store (which no one in their right mind uses anyway), because need a bigger resolution than the OS.
A niece of mine has a 12 year old PC with 4Gb RAM 32 bits and has switched to W10 with no problems, runs reasonably fast, despite the old HD, with an SSD it surely works perfectly.

[TalGarik]

@ingolftopf said in Pulling the plug on expired Operating Systems:

@Panino
Or use Linux.

there is no better choice unless you need some proprietary software, I miss Fedora so much

[Zalex108]

@Catweazle

X86 Will be the next
Probably soon

I manage a 2Gb Ram with W7, since Presto RIP, no one runs as flawlessly, neither Vivaldi since the Cr engine. ://

[mib2berlin]

@Zalex108
Hi, the next is Windows 10, 2025.
What I not understand often is you can buy a used PC or school PS´s for 20-40 €, why you keep your old hardware as long as possible?

Cheers, mib

[Zalex108]

@mib2berlin

Yes,
I mean x32 versions will be deprecated.
Some Linux versions already did it.

That 2Gb PC is not used that much to replace it.
20/40€?

And works?

I'll check what's on a shop which sells Companies computers, just for an overall idea, time ago wasn't powerful nor as cheap.

I run with a i5 2k 6Gb, works fine despite I set up everything as a Low End to keep it lightweight.

[Zalex108]

One of them

https://www.ofertaspc.com/13-portatiles_reacondicionados

[mib2berlin]

@Zalex108
I buy several of this kind of computers and they are expensive because companies buy "Professional" hardware, they don´t buy at Walmarkt or something. Simply check what such computer cost new, then you see there are not really expensive they are cheap.
It´s getting a bit of topic now but I meant more private to private buying or even Ebay or similar.
A quick check about the Elitebook, it cost 1539 € in 2017.

Cheers, mib

[Catweazle]

@mib2berlin , yes, MS says 2025, but I don't believe it, in Windows 7 the out also came many years after the announced date. I think that for W10 it will be similar.
In 2025 there will be too many users whose PC or laptop relatively current, which does not support an update to W11 (without cheating), like mine. Turning off the tap in 2025 will cause many users to send them to sweep the desert.

[Zalex108]

@mib2berlin

Yes,
Elite HP aren't cheap and mostly gives good results but at the same time you may find equivalent for some more.

Despite the original priced, they are mostly priced a many others.

[Zalex108]

For W7 they kept for companies, after paying a fee.
Despite that,
There's a company which will do the same but "outside" MS.

[ibhatt97]

Well, I noticed erratic behaviour of Vivaldi Browser on My old desktop PC running on Windows 7 since 2019. That's why I switched to Windows 10, my other PC and that's a laptop, for better reliability.

[ingolftopf]

@ibhatt97
Maybe you are also interested in looking at Linux.
With 'Q4OS' (Debian) you can install it like a Windows program Linux next to your Windows.
You then have a dualboot system.

If you don't like it, you can delete it like a Windows program without leaving any residue.

[3o5]

That's unfortunate. I'm on Windows 8(.1) and not planning on updating any time soon.

Besides all the work needed to set up and tweak a new OS, which I really want to avoid in general and doubly so when there's no gain, there's also the problem of the unpleasant GUIs of Windows 10 and 11.

[Ayespy]

@3o5 I replace the gui with OpenShell. Problem solved.

[3o5]

@Ayespy

I don't mean just the Start Menu.

Also the windows' chrome, native context menus (and actually, native widgets in general), task bar, file explorer, possibly even the settings areas, though that's mostly less crucial since you don't configure it daily.

Perhaps some can be fixed with third party tools (which also Windows 8 needs partially), but it's becoming a hassle and I'm not sure everything is fixable.

If only OpenShell was a full shell, and also a window manager/compositor.

[zeLounge]

@neophyte: Totally agree with your assessment.

• age is one parameter, what's under the hood is another.
• my 10 year old T440p Thinkpad, with the fastest CPU & memory permitable, is still faster than any average new laptop. (ssd included, obviously)